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cjl2625 04-01-2014 19:03

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Originally Posted by UnTrustedTruss (Post 1320673)
Watch this video from about two minutes in and on. You may have missed this line but it is so important.

"We are doing this a bit differently this year, making changes from kickoff to championships this year"

That's pretty interesting... Woody says they're making changes throughout the season to "keep things fresh"

I think you might actually be on to something...

Jack_O 04-01-2014 19:08

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Sorry if this has already been asked. Do assists have to go in sequential order? For example: Normally the passing would be done blue zone to white zone to red zone. Can this be bypassed by doing a long shot from the blue zone to the red zone?

MetalJacket 04-01-2014 19:13

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Originally Posted by Jack_O (Post 1320693)
Sorry if this has already been asked. Do assists have to go in sequential order? For example: Normally the passing would be done blue zone to white zone to red zone. Can this be bypassed by doing a long shot from the blue zone to the red zone?

From the Manual ...
Quote:

ASSIST: an event worth bonus points that occurs when a unique ALLIANCE ROBOT POSSESSES the ALLIANCE’S BALL in a unique ZONE (i.e. red, white, or blue ZONE) during a CYCLE.
So theoretically yes, shooting from blue to red would be an assist as the ball is in a unique zone provided the robot that picks it up is not the same one that shot it (it too must be unique). That would only be your second assist however (with the first being the introduction of the ball by the human player) so you would need to pass to a different player in white to get the third assist. At least that is my interpretation of the rule's wording

WakingTheFallen 04-01-2014 19:13

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...Might it be legal to shoot the ball over the truss and catch it YOURSELF for the 20 points?

MetalJacket 04-01-2014 19:14

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Originally Posted by WakingTheFallen (Post 1320704)
...Might it be legal to shoot the ball over the truss and catch it YOURSELF for the 20 points?

This was discussed a little earlier - the ball must have been thrown over the truss by an alliance partner to get the catch bonus

Jack_O 04-01-2014 19:15

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The manual states that you have to pass to a partner. I only asked my question for cases where the third robot is disabled. Thanks for confirming my suspicions,

WakingTheFallen 04-01-2014 19:21

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Thanks for the clarification.

UnTrustedTruss 04-01-2014 19:24

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Originally Posted by cjl2625 (Post 1320688)
That's pretty interesting... Woody says they're making changes throughout the season to "keep things fresh"

I think you might actually be on to something...

Think it is worth making a speculation topic for? All the teams I have talked to are suspecting similar, that truss is just too beefy to be simply a rope. The video itself even shows people climbing it, along with the fact that the interior struts (the angler things) are separated much more wide then in a normal truss.

cjl2625 04-01-2014 19:26

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Yeah, make a topic. This actually seems pretty plausible

mcchev 04-01-2014 19:27

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Originally Posted by shades23 (Post 1320201)
Wait so what is the max amount of points you can score in a single run?

You can get 3 robots with possession, throw it over the middle bar, have a robot catch it, and score for 60 points.

chrisfl 04-01-2014 19:28

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Originally Posted by WeJohnFriedIt (Post 1320190)
Yeah I was also surprised that there's no cooperative task to finish with. Go figure.

The whole game is a cooperative task

Bryce Paputa 04-01-2014 19:30

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Originally Posted by UnTrustedTruss (Post 1320673)
A Mid-season added endgame challenge seems so plausible right now.

This. We're saving 20 pounds in our design for it.

Coin3 04-01-2014 19:30

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Originally Posted by chrisfl (Post 1320718)
The whole game is a cooperative task

He may have meant a coopertitive (coopertition-based) task.

AWB 04-01-2014 19:34

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What if i'm in the red zone and shoot the ball over the truss to a robot in the white zone? 30 points or foul?

petrokid96 04-01-2014 19:36

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Originally Posted by UnTrustedTruss (Post 1320673)
[size="1"]We had a hang last year? We did, but it sucked, those pyramids were $@#$ near impossible to climb to the top, everyone just did level one holds. They were a major disappointment.

sets aside tinfoil hat

This I find as Extremely false because my team, Greater Rochester Robotics (G.R.R.) 340, on practice day at Finger Lakes Regional we showed a full 30 point climb and we preformed that almost every match after that including at the Buckeye Regional ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyq0w7H76IU ). We also saw at least 2 other teams do a 30 point climb at Buckeye.


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