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Chris is me 04-01-2014 14:47

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atlas (Post 1320406)
in regards to the horizontal extensions. you can go out up to 20in in any direction correct? But does that limit you to one <20in extension at a time in the 6in cylinder? Or can you have more than one as long as they aren't 20in?

The six inch cylinder is an entirely different rule.

Vertically, any extending parts going higher than 5 feet can only be extended in the Goalie Zone and must fit within a 6" vertical cylinder.

Horizontally, you can extend 20 inches normal to the edge of any frame perimeter member. Height doesn't matter as long as it's under 5 feet. I have just read the rules but I do not remember anything limiting how many extensions are out at one time.

Whippet 04-01-2014 14:59

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atlas (Post 1320406)
in regards to the horizontal extensions. you can go out up to 20in in any direction correct? But does that limit you to one <20in extension at a time in the 6in cylinder? Or can you have more than one as long as they aren't 20in?

The six-inch cylinder rule only applies to vertical extensions.

MasterEric 04-01-2014 16:12

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhultink (Post 1320410)
So, let's say all 6 robots miss their auto points and the balls all stay on the field. How will the refs keep track of all the balls and assists?

Or will assists not count until all the auto balls have been scored? If this is the case, wouldn't it be better to have some of your alliance partners not even do auto so that you can get assist point in Tele-op quicker?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=123985
You can't get assists in autonomous.

PAR_WIG1350 05-01-2014 14:16

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
I'm still in disbelief over this one, even after re-reading the rules and ctrl+f searching

The ridiculous Cv limit on pneumatic solenoid valves has been removed entirely

Ty Tremblay 05-01-2014 14:28

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350 (Post 1321553)
I'm still in disbelief over this one, even after re-reading the rules and ctrl+f searching

The ridiculous Cv limit on pneumatic solenoid valves has been removed entirely

By Cv limit, do you mean flow rate? If so, this is big.

RyanShoff 05-01-2014 14:58

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
A quick search found this valve:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#6425k12/=q4ehnb

1/8" inlets with 1.0 Cv. Last years limit was .32 Cv.

Hallry 05-01-2014 15:07

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Has no one yet said that matches are now 2:30, not 2:15? ::rtm::

RufflesRidge 05-01-2014 15:12

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanShoff (Post 1321591)
A quick search found this valve:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#6425k12/=q4ehnb

1/8" inlets with 1.0 Cv. Last years limit was .32 Cv.

Has anyone calculated whether this would actually improve the flow rate with the diameter tubing that is required?

cgmv123 05-01-2014 16:17

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1321596)
Has no one yet said that matches are now 2:30, not 2:15? ::rtm::

I did. In the first post.

CalTran 05-01-2014 17:18

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
For a $130 each, would the improved performance really be worth it over a mechanical solution?

PAR_WIG1350 05-01-2014 17:47

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1321705)
For a $130 each, would the improved performance really be worth it over a mechanical solution?

I think that it is just an example of a valve that is no longer illegal, not the best option. Also, what sort of mechanical solution exists for a small flow coefficient other than a larger flow coefficient?

CalTran 05-01-2014 18:00

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
I meant mechanical over pneumatic.

WeRrobots 15-02-2014 12:46

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
During the autonomous period, do we have to start with the ball within the frame perimeter? Can we set it next to the bot and program the robot to pick it up?

EricH 15-02-2014 12:51

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WeRrobots (Post 1343509)
During the autonomous period, do we have to start with the ball within the frame perimeter? Can we set it next to the bot and program the robot to pick it up?

I suggest reading rule G5, and telling me what "touching" means.

rich2202 16-02-2014 17:40

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1343513)
I suggest reading rule G5, and telling me what "touching" means.

Touching: arousing strong feelings of sympathy, appreciation, or gratitude. Kind of like New Math. How you feel about it is more important.


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