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cgmv123 04-01-2014 11:13

2014 Rules Changes
 
Some quick ones I noticed are more legal batteries and new vertical projection rules.

A match is now two and a half minutes.

Steven Donow 04-01-2014 11:14

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Autonomous is only ten seconds.

EricH 04-01-2014 12:59

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Championships has 3 selection rounds, 1-8, 8-1, 1-8, 4th team doesn't have to play in any round.

geomapguy 04-01-2014 13:02

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Maybe a new rule??

Quote:

Exception: Batteries integral to and part of a COTS computing device or self-contained camera are also permitted (e.g. laptop batteries), provided they’re only used to power the COTS computing device and any peripheral COTS USB input devices connected to the COTS computing device and they must be securely fastened to the ROBOT.
EDIT: Not a new rule. Thanks EricH for the correction

EricH 04-01-2014 13:10

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geomapguy (Post 1320310)
Maybe a new rule??

Recycled rule, at least 2 years old.

mechanical_robot 04-01-2014 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevenStonow (Post 1320199)
Autonomous is only ten seconds.

Only 10 second? Wow.
Instead of FIRST decreasing autonomous mode time, they should be increasing that time. Its more of challenge for teams to accomplish.
FIRST should keep Autonomous at 15 second, though in my opinion it should be 30 seconds. That way a team is forced to do something good with their robot or else they will be missing out on a lot of points.

Pratik Kunapuli 04-01-2014 14:11

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
There is no end game this year, although I don't know when the last time this happened was.

WeRrobots 04-01-2014 14:11

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Can we use other alliances balls? What about entering another bot's perimeter for an assist, if it is on our alliance?

EricH 04-01-2014 14:14

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WeRrobots (Post 1320373)
Can we use other alliances balls? What about entering another bot's perimeter for an assist, if it is on our alliance?

Start by reading the Manual, please. If you had read G11, you would have discovered just how bad the penalty for using your opponents' ball is. (It's NOT pretty.)

For the other one, there is no rule specifically against it. However, you only get 20" outside your own perimeter to work with, per R3-B.

Whippet 04-01-2014 14:19

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
I believe that this is new:
Quote:

G20: ROBOTS must be in compliance with Section 4.6: BUMPER Rules throughout the MATCH. Violation: DISABLED

WeRrobots 04-01-2014 14:25

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1320378)
Start by reading the Manual, please. If you had read G11, you would have discovered just how bad the penalty for using your opponents' ball is. (It's NOT pretty.)

For the other one, there is no rule specifically against it. However, you only get 20" outside your own perimeter to work with, per R3-B.

Thank you.

GaryVoshol 04-01-2014 14:27

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whippet (Post 1320383)
I believe that this is new:

I saw that too. Make your bumpers robust. If they go out of the bumper zone, you get DISABLED! :yikes:

atlas 04-01-2014 14:40

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
in regards to the horizontal extensions. you can go out up to 20in in any direction correct? But does that limit you to one <20in extension at a time in the 6in cylinder? Or can you have more than one as long as they aren't 20in?

TVwazhere 04-01-2014 14:45

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pratik341 (Post 1320371)
There is no end game this year, although I don't know when the last time this happened was.

Theyve had some sort of end game play since 2008 (When I joined) and I'm pretty sure they had one in 2007. So for at least 6 or 7 years.

(End game being defined as the last twenty seconds where a robot hangs, positions itself, fires a mini robot, scores extra points using special objects like super moon rocks or colored frisbees, placing track balls on overpass, etc)

Jhultink 04-01-2014 14:47

Re: 2014 Rules Changes
 
So, let's say all 6 robots miss their auto points and the balls all stay on the field. How will the refs keep track of all the balls and assists?

Or will assists not count until all the auto balls have been scored? If this is the case, wouldn't it be better to have some of your alliance partners not even do auto so that you can get assist point in Tele-op quicker?


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