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alectronic 05-01-2014 14:03

Re: Human Players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godkane (Post 1320593)
I have a similar question. Can a human throw the ball off your robot, which would then go over the truss or into a goal?

Nope, that would mean the ROBOT would not be causing the BALL to pass, the human would.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manual 3.1.4
A BALL is considered SCORED over the TRUSS if a ROBOT causes a BALL to pass though the infinitely tall plane that is bounded by the top of the TRUSS and the TRUSS POLES toward the ALLIANCE’S GOALS


PAR_WIG1350 05-01-2014 17:30

Re: Human Players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godkane (Post 1320593)
I have a similar question. Can a human throw the ball off your robot, which would then go over the truss or into a goal?

This might be worth asking in Q&A.

ninjosh97 05-01-2014 17:36

Re: Human Players
 
According to the blue box in G11, the ROBOT can pass the ball to the human player.
This could be useful...

1. If a robot doesn't have a ground pickup, and you want to "assist" it.

2. If the ball handling robot is pinned, it could pass to the human player who could chuck it to another robot.

I don't think there are any regulations as to how far the human player can throw... so might also be an effective way of getting the ball across the field fast.

kenjifujita17 05-01-2014 23:44

Re: Human Players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjosh97 (Post 1321715)
According to the blue box in G11, the ROBOT can pass the ball to the human player.
This could be useful...

1. If a robot doesn't have a ground pickup, and you want to "assist" it.

2. If the ball handling robot is pinned, it could pass to the human player who could chuck it to another robot.

I don't think there are any regulations as to how far the human player can throw... so might also be an effective way of getting the ball across the field fast.

G36
A BALL inbounded after retrieval from the PEDESTAL must first contact a ROBOT or the carpet on its DRIVERS’ end of the FIELD before crossing beyond the TRUSS.

Violation: TECHNICAL FOUL

I didn't see any other throwing limitations

kenjifujita17 05-01-2014 23:50

Re: Aerial Assist Discussion Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabrielle3164 (Post 1320271)
Can someone help me understand how you get the balls from the pedestal to the Human Player Area? G38 and G39 leave me confused because you cannot pass the ball between the areas, nor can you walk between the areas.

G38 HUMAN PLAYERS may not pass the BALL to a HUMAN PLAYER in another HUMAN PLAYER AREA (passing the BALL within an ALLIANCE STATION or HUMAN PLAYER AREA is permitted). Violation: FOUL

G39 During the MATCH, TEAMS must remain in contact with the area of the FIELD (ALLIANCE STATION or HUMAN PLAYER AREA) in which they started the MATCH. Exceptions will be granted for inadvertent, momentary, and inconsequential infractions and in cases concerning safety. Violation: FOUL

Only one human player may inbound balls from the pedestal by staying within the taped boundaries of their alliance zone. The other two human players only throw the balls that went out of bounds back in if the ball had not been scored.

Karibou 06-01-2014 12:23

Re: Aerial Assist Discussion Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenjifujita17 (Post 1322093)
Only one human player may inbound balls from the pedestal by staying within the taped boundaries of their alliance zone. The other two human players only throw the balls that went out of bounds back in if the ball had not been scored.

(Emphasis mine)

Is there a rule that actually specifies the distribution of human players on the field? As far as I can tell, it only says where they may stand, not where they must stand. You could have two players in the alliance station and one in one of the human player zones (maybe not advisable, but possible).

...unless I missed something, which is entirely possible.

Hallry 06-01-2014 12:25

Re: Aerial Assist Discussion Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karibou (Post 1322373)
As far as I can tell, it only says where they may stand, not where they must stand. You could have two players in the alliance station and one in one of the human player zones (maybe not advisable, but possible).

It sounds to me like the human players may stand in either of their zones or the alliance station. But of course, whichever zone they choose to stand it, they must remain for the entirety of the match. Otherwise, what would be the point of the parenthesis of G38:

Quote:

G38 HUMAN PLAYERS may not pass the BALL to a HUMAN PLAYER in another HUMAN PLAYER AREA (passing the BALL within an ALLIANCE STATION or HUMAN PLAYER AREA is permitted). Violation: FOUL
(Emphasis mine)


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