Chief Delphi - Auto Mode

Chief Delphi (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/index.php)

- Rules/Strategy (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)

- - Auto Mode - HOT GOAL (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124021)

godkane

04-01-2014 18:00

Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

How is a hot goal scored?

0:00 - Left is hot
0:04 - Ball in air on left
0:05 - Right is hot.
0:06 - Enters left goal.

When is a goal scored,
1) when the ball touches line the,
2) all the way thru the line,
3) or touches the bottom?

Are they going to use an instant replay camera?

geomapguy

04-01-2014 18:01

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by godkane (Post 1320600)

As i understand, only one goal is HOT during a match??

MetalJacket

04-01-2014 18:03

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by geomapguy (Post 1320601)

As i understand, only one goal is HOT during a match??

I thought this as well but actually, no. Here's the relevant quote from the manual

Quote:

Additionally, each high/low pair of goals will be designated “hot” for five seconds, but the order of which side is first is randomized. For each ball scored in a “hot” goal, the Alliance earns additional bonus points.

EDIT - that is from the very beginning of the manual in the section entitled "Summary"

godkane

04-01-2014 18:03

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Here is the rule I'm reading.

Section 1 - The match begins with one 10-second Autonomous Period in which robots operate independently of driver. Each robot may begin with a ball and attempt to score it in a goal. Alliances earn bonus points for scoring balls in this mode and for any of their robots that move in to their zones. Additionally, each high/low pair of goals will be designated “hot” for five seconds, but the order of which side is first is randomized. For each ball scored in a “hot” goal, the Alliance earns additional bonus points.

geomapguy

04-01-2014 18:05

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Oh wow....

*facepalm*

MetalJacket

04-01-2014 18:11

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by geomapguy (Post 1320607)

Oh wow....

*facepalm*

It's OK, I missed it at first too and was about to post exactly what you did before I reread the manual ::rtm:: :)

Flimsor

04-01-2014 18:19

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by godkane (Post 1320605)

So just to clarify, this means that either the top pair of goals, or the bottom pair of goals will be hot for 5 seconds, then the other pair will be hot for 5 seconds, right?

MetalJacket

04-01-2014 18:21

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flimsor (Post 1320623)

So just to clarify, this means that either the top pair of goals, or the bottom pair of goals will be hot for 5 seconds, then the other pair will be hot for 5 seconds, right?

What the rule appears to say is that for the first 5 seconds either the right or left low AND high goals will be hot, then for the remainder of autonomous the other side's low and high goals will be hot

Flimsor

04-01-2014 18:23

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalJacket (Post 1320627)

Okay, so my original train of thought was correct. I thought I had misunderstood it. Thanks!

godkane

04-01-2014 18:27

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Additionally, each high/low pair of goals will be designated “hot” for five seconds, but the order of which side is first is randomized.

Here is how I read it:
Assume left is first:
left top and left bottom will be hot for first 5 seconds.
right top and right bottom will be hot for last 5 seconds.

MetalJacket

04-01-2014 18:32

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by godkane (Post 1320634)

Here is how I read it:
Assume left is first:
left top and left bottom will be hot for first 5 seconds.
right top and right bottom will be hot for last 5 seconds.

Yes, that appears to be correct. The question as to how scoring given your original scenario would go is still a little hazy. The definition of scored doesn't seem to help much but is copied below for convenience. The caveat about the ball passing completely through the opening makes me think that if the Hot goal changes just after the ball enters the goal (front edge sticking on or something) you would not get the bonus - I'm not sure if that is the intent of the rule so this could be a good question for the official Q&A.

Quote:

A BALL is considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE’S GOAL if

a ROBOT causes one (1) of their ALLIANCE’S BALLS to cross completely through the opening(s) of one (1) of their ALLIANCE’S GOALS without intervening human contact,
the ALLIANCE ROBOT last in contact with the BALL was entirely between the TRUSS and their ALLIANCE’S HIGH GOALS, and
the BALL is not in contact with any ROBOT from that ALLIANCE.

puneeth.meruva

04-01-2014 22:58

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Do Hot Goals only happen in Autonomous Mode?

Anupam Goli

04-01-2014 23:00

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by puneeth.meruva (Post 1321051)

Do Hot Goals only happen in Autonomous Mode?

Yes, the HOT goal is only active in autonomous mode.

Quote:

All GOALS scored during AUTO will earn a five (5)-point bonus. If the BALL is SCORED in a HOT GOAL, the ALLIANCE earns an additional five (5)-point bonus. Each pair of an ALLIANCE’S LOW and HIGH GOALS are sequentially HOT for five (5) seconds during AUTO; the first pair to be HOT is determined randomly by the FMS. The pairs are the same for each ALLIANCE, relative to their ROBOTS’ perspective. For details regarding HOT GOAL indication, please reference The ARENA Section 2.2.3: The GOALS.

puneeth.meruva

04-01-2014 23:13

Re: Auto Mode - HOT GOAL

thank you!

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41.