Chief Delphi - The Not So-Secret Secret End-Game

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Re: The Not So-Secret Secret End-Game

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Originally Posted by AndyBare (Post 1322763)

I don't really see how this is a loophole. In blocking a ball, you in no way have control of it. You never possess the ball. Goalies are definitely legal, and teams will definitely use this strategy. Hands down.

I would still consider it to be a loophole because it is not directly stated in the rules, per-say, but is implied. It could be determined a few different ways, if read incorrectly.

Re: The Not So-Secret Secret End-Game

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Originally Posted by chibi_mechanic (Post 1322766)

I would still consider it to be a loophole because it is not directly stated in the rules, per-say, but is implied. It could be determined a few different ways, if read incorrectly.

We had a huge argument about goalies and "launching/impelling in a desired direction". Our main conclusion was that it the rule was ludicrously vague.

-Obviously having a goalie blocker pre-deployed and the ball hitting it is fine, or else goalies, the goalie zone, and their extendable blockers are pointless
-But what if you have some sort of rotatable shaped blocker that directs the ball somewhere you'd like it to go? Is that launching and impelling in a desired direction?
-What if you time your blocker deployment so that it punched the ball upwards (maximizing air time), or so that your shaped blocker bounced it hard towards the other end of the arena? Is that launching and impelling in a desired direction?

I think (hope) there will be many, many rule updates attempting to clarify the possession rules.

Re: The Not So-Secret Secret End-Game

It hasn't been revealed yet, but I want to know what this year's endgame is. Leave your thoughts here!

Who says there will be one?

There isn't one. Please speculate in the thread already chock-full of conspiracy theorists and dumb ideas.

Read the FRC Blog.
They rarely flat-out lie to us.
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ther-Fun-Stuff

I am going to trust Frank that he didn't lie to our faces in saying that there isn't an end game.

I think this thread should be locked.

BWAHAHAHHAHA.

That is all.

I appreciate Frank more than ever for nipping this speculation at the bud.

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Originally Posted by cadandcookies (Post 1325784)

I appreciate Frank more than ever for nipping this speculation at the bud.

A very straightforward statement, clearly there shouldn't be any question now.

I stayed off this thread for a while, but now have a few things I'd like to share. It became clear to me that there was no hidden game this week. If there had been, I would have expected to see posts or hints from the GDC, and quite quickly; nothing. The kicker was the rules update that said a ball stuck on the truss could be dislodged by having a ref shake it. No way that truss was being used for anything else if it wasn't bolted to the floor! And how would they bolt it, anyway, given the nature of the venues?

Ah well. Occam wins! But people who took this seriously enough to be unkind to others who speculated differently than themselves, on either side of the debate, didn't win in my reckoning. Let's not turn CD into Facebook.

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Originally Posted by mrnoble (Post 1325826)

Let's not turn CD into Facebook.

...too late....

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1325891)

...too late....

:(

I have cat pictures for you, then...

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Originally Posted by mrnoble (Post 1325903)

:(

I have cat pictures for you, then...

So do I.

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1325904)

So do I.

Holy smokes, your name isn't actually Koko Ed. My life is a lie.