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mplanchard 04-01-2014 20:57

pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 

mplanchard 04-01-2014 20:59

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
If you have questions about these assemblies or the SolidWorks Kit of Parts let me know and I will try to help Marie

Coin3 04-01-2014 21:10

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Could you possibly look into providing STEP files for the 2014 KOP? My team is stuck mostly using earlier versions of Solidworks and it appears that the 2014 KOP files only work on the latest version.

mplanchard 04-01-2014 21:14

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coin3 (Post 1320886)
Could you possibly look into providing STEP files for the 2014 KOP? My team is stuck mostly using earlier versions of Solidworks and it appears that the 2014 KOP files only work on the latest version.

Can you apply for sponsorship? We can get you software quickly.

We are working on the STEP format now at 3DContentCentral.com. Many of the parts are up there. This will take some time.

What is critical? Marie

Michael Hill 04-01-2014 21:17

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Any plans on getting the CAD for the Arena?

The manual said they'd be at http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...Field-Drawings

But I don't see any CAD models there, just drawings

Coin3 04-01-2014 21:21

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Our team is already sponsored and while we did receive copies of the latest version of Solidworks, our teacher is limiting the upgrade to students who want to install it on their own computers at home. I am just looking for the quickest way to get the KOP files working on our computers in class, which have 2011 on them. It looks like Autodesk has STEP versions of the KOP released, so I'll probably get those downloaded and if there are any parts that don't work out or are missing I'll search on 3DContentCentral.com.
So no problem really.

That's a really nice render of the kitbot btw. :D

roystur44 04-01-2014 21:25

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
The step files are available on the AndyMark site.

mplanchard 04-01-2014 21:28

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
We didn't have access to this before kick off. Does First usually produce models of the field. If not I would check to see if one of the other cad vendors posted the field in Step format if you need something today.

From step you will want to create the base (floor) as a SOLIDWORKS part. It will be easier to use advanced SolidWorks mates such as Width Symmetry and Path. These are three jewels in robot movement that are underutilized.

We will investigate getting a field modeled but our priority is game pieces then step files of KitBot and the electrical kit of parts. Marie

mplanchard 04-01-2014 21:30

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coin3 (Post 1320903)
Our team is already sponsored and while we did receive copies of the latest version of Solidworks, our teacher is limiting the upgrade to students who want to install it on their own computers at home. I am just looking for the quickest way to get the KOP files working on our computers in class, which have 2011 on them. It looks like Autodesk has STEP versions of the KOP released, so I'll probably get those downloaded and if there are any parts that don't work out or are missing I'll search on 3DContentCentral.com.
So no problem really.

That's a really nice render of the kitbot btw. :D

I give all the credit to TJ Watson of WPI. He has done amazing work on the mechanical kop. AndyMark helped get us started with the SolidWorks models too. All I did was use Photoview 360. It makes me look good!

Michael Hill 04-01-2014 21:43

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mplanchard (Post 1320915)
We didn't have access to this before kick off. Does First usually produce models of the field. If not I would check to see if one of the other cad vendors posted the field in Step format if you need something today.

From step you will want to create the base (floor) as a SOLIDWORKS part. It will be easier to use advanced SolidWorks mates such as Width Symmetry and Path. These are three jewels in robot movement that are underutilized.

We will investigate getting a field modeled but our priority is game pieces then step files of KitBot and the electrical kit of parts. Marie

They usually are released in Inventor or CRIO format (I know, ew, right??? :p )

mplanchard 04-01-2014 21:50

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Any standard model that you don't have to create is a good model. This is a great "best practice" method. We worked with First to create a great kop. They have been super. I just didn't think we needed to create a field. Luckily others have.

Now we can concentrate on the mechanical and electrical engineering side of cad. More fun.

topgun 04-01-2014 22:29

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
This is absolutely wonderful! Our team has been SolidWorks users since day 1 and it always hurt having to hunt around for the KOP parts, or using STEP files to get our KOP parts after previous Kickoffs. Thank you!

mplanchard 04-01-2014 22:51

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
You're welcome. Let us know what you need to make the kop better. Marie

sdaustin 05-01-2014 00:15

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coin3 (Post 1320903)
Our team is already sponsored and while we did receive copies of the latest version of Solidworks, our teacher is limiting the upgrade to students who want to install it on their own computers at home. I am just looking for the quickest way to get the KOP files working on our computers in class, which have 2011 on them. It looks like Autodesk has STEP versions of the KOP released, so I'll probably get those downloaded and if there are any parts that don't work out or are missing I'll search on 3DContentCentral.com.
So no problem really.

That's a really nice render of the kitbot btw. :D

I believe the reason your teacher is limiting the upgrade to student-owned machines is that he/she is (correctly, and admirably) playing by the rules. The terms of the license SW gives as part of team sponsorship are "Student" licenses, which can only be used on machines personally owned by team members, NOT school-owned machines. The school's machines are probably covered under an "Educational" license, purchased by the school, from a SW reseller.

Coin3 05-01-2014 00:22

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdaustin (Post 1321138)
I believe the reason your teacher is limiting the upgrade to student-owned machines is that he/she is (correctly, and admirably) playing by the rules. The terms of the license SW gives as part of team sponsorship are "Student" licenses, which can only be used on machines personally owned by team members, NOT school-owned machines. The school's machines are probably covered under an "Educational" license, purchased by the school, from a SW reseller.

Ah. Thanks for the explanation.

fb39ca4 05-01-2014 00:40

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coin3 (Post 1321150)
Ah. Thanks for the explanation.

Something you could try is buying an external USB hard drive (ideally USB 3.0 if the computers support it), and installing Windows and Solidworks on that.

ehochstein 05-01-2014 01:37

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
Looks awesome! I am installing the newest version of Solidworks now, can't wait to check it out!

TJ_Watson 05-01-2014 06:46

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
I'm uploading all the files to 3D Content Central now, they should be up soon, including the STEP files!

jonboy 05-01-2014 07:23

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
How can we find/search for the pertinent 2014FRC files on 3DCentral.com? Tags, contributor's name ...?

TJ_Watson 05-01-2014 08:09

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
I'll be uploading them, so you can search for me or you can use the tag 2014kop.
Hope that helps, I'm trying to upload more files now, but I think I may have broke the 3DCC server... which is hilarious...:rolleyes:

Anthony4004 06-01-2014 19:52

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
I am new to Solidworks, and am not fully sure what to do to have the KoP be assebled together? I have downloaded the zip file from solidworks, but not fully sure what to do with all the CAD parts?

mplanchard 06-01-2014 22:14

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
In SolidWorks there are three tops of documents:
Part - a single entity
Assembly - combination of parts. Parts are also called components.
Drawing - 2d representation of a part or assembly

You should see 3 folders Black, Green, and KitBot. Black and Green folders correspond to the kop parts lists. The KitBot folder contains three major assembly examples of many of the parts put together, AndyMarks KitBot in a long version and wide version and a control systems example assembly.

If you want to use the KitBot frame, I would take a look at the provided example. If you want to design your own frame from Andymark parts, go take a look at the robotics section www.solidworks.com/tutorials.

In the Andymark assemblies, half the frame is modeled and then a mirrored component of the other half is used to complete the assembly.

To create an assembly, click New, Assembly.
Click insert Component. Browse. Select a part or subassembly.
Click Ok. The first part is fixed to the Origin.
Insert a second part. This second part is free to translate and rotate.
Use mates to constrain geometry. For example a cylindrical face of an axle to a cylindrical face of a wheel would be a concentric mate.
I can help you through the learning curve and there are many talented people here that know SolidWorks. Just give us your questions. Marie

mplanchard 08-01-2014 07:11

Re: pic: KitBot in SolidWorks Long and Wide Assemblies
 
We updated the KOP last night at www.solidworks.com/FIRST.

Now included are STEP files of the KitBot Wide, KitBot Long and Control Board.

Also included in SolidWorks format, Ice Cube Cooler parts, Triangle parts and Ball.

At www.3DContentCentral.com, 100's of parts for FRC and FTC.

Thank you to all our SolidWorks users that have contributed models to www.3DContentCentral.com. Marie


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