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wilhitern1 08-01-2014 16:24

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
I'm saying averaging 104 for Quals.

If two of the robots are only able to move a little, the good bot places the ball in front of then in two different zones and they push it a foot. The best robot scores a low goal and you've got 41 points. Likely two of them can push low goals in the Auto. There's 22 more. Minimum score for a round with 3 working but pathetic robots is 63.

300 Average for Elims.

Let's call the high score for the year about 420.

Neal

Tom Bottiglieri 08-01-2014 16:38

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
Average 25 in quals.

110 in elims.

AquaWarrior12 08-01-2014 22:18

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
Wow. I'm seeing a lot of low scores for most people's estimations. I may be a rookie this year, but unless I am vastly underestimating the game's difficulty at competition, then I can see the low end of the scores for games mostly breaking 100. High scores around 300.

Sean Raia 08-01-2014 22:22

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AquaWarrior12 (Post 1324197)
Wow. I'm seeing a lot of low scores for most people's estimations. I may be a rookie this year, but unless I am vastly underestimating the game's difficulty at competition, then I can see the low end of the scores for games mostly breaking 100. High scores around 300.

about 1/4 of robots on the field won't move or will move with very little control for the better half of Friday. Those that can move will have their fair share of mechanical + comm issues.

These estimates are blowing my mind. This is week 1 we are talking about.

AquaWarrior12 08-01-2014 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Raia (Post 1324200)
about 1/4 of robots on the field won't move or will move with very little control for the better half of Friday. Those that can move will have their fair share of mechanical + comm issues.

These estimates are blowing my mind. This is week 1 we are talking about.

Well, sure. By the end of week one I see relatively low scores by any robots that are operating. But I prefer to rather look ahead at the end of the six weeks, perhaps straying from the actual topic of this post.

pandamonium 09-01-2014 09:36

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
I can not wait till our week 0 event where all of these low estimates will get crushed!

JohnSchneider 09-01-2014 10:27

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wilhitern1 (Post 1323941)
Minimum score for a round with 3 working but pathetic robots is 63.

I have learned that no matter how easy a score like this to obtain is, the minimum for scoring is ALWAYS 0.

I think this may be a year where the scores at champs are LOWER than regional high scores. I think once teams learn to efficiently progress the ball, defense will take over, and both alliances will be subject to slower cycles. The regional level will still be full of inferior(strength wise) drive trains and inexperienced drive teams.

Week 1:
Quals: average: 41
Elims: average: 80
High: 160

E Dawg 09-01-2014 10:32

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
200 in quals and 350 in elims.

John Retkowski 09-01-2014 11:18

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
I think the scoring numbers will definitely be a lot higher this year than last year. As for week one I'd imagine the numbers won't reach above 200 points

Maybe 70-100 points qualifiers

120-150 points eliminations

BigJ 09-01-2014 11:26

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
29 Qualifying

113 Eliminations

Charles Boehm 09-01-2014 11:30

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
I think a lot of these numbers are quite low, I would say that quals will be in the 70-80 range and elims will bejust higher, say...110? Keeping in mind that in elims we can assume a larger amount of points coming from autonomous.

Popmaster288 09-01-2014 12:38

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
With realistic timing and no room for surprises, 300 pts is a pretty high score. I dont expect to see these kind of scores very often.

However, I think this year's game is easier to build around than previous years, so I don't think there will be as many robots who aren't quite finished. Now that the game heavily relies on teammates, it all comes down to the driver skill, in my opinion.

If 300 were an almost perfect score, then I'd predict that we will see scores of 100 and highest 200 in the Elims. 70 would be a decent average for the qual matches.

Racer26 09-01-2014 12:55

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
As an extension to my previous post, lets calculate what I think the best alliances will be capable of.

In an average match:

I expect 100% of teams will be getting the 5 pt mobility bonus. 5 pts per team = 15 pts.
I expect 100% of teams will attempt high goal autons, and about 80% of those attempts will be successful. = 15 * 0.8 = 12 pts per team, * 3 = 36 pts
I expect 0% of teams will attempt low goal autons, 0 pts per team * 3 = 0 pts
HOT goals will be about 50% of the scored goals (which had 80% accuracy). 5 * 0.8 * 0.5 = 2 pt * 3 = 6pts.

At the end of auto, the average match of the 'best' alliance will have 57 pts.

For the remainder of the match, the first 10s or so will be wasted clearing the field of the missed auto shots, probably 80% into the high goals. 3 balls * 20% of them missed = 0.6 balls. 80% of the time worth 10 pts, 20% of the time worth 1 point. (0.8 * 10)+(0.2 * 1) = 8.2 pts per ball * 0.6 balls = ~5 pts for this step.

Then a 'best' alliance will score maybe 5 cycles in the remaining 2 minutes 10 seconds of match.

Of those 5 cycles:

100% will be 3 assist cycles, 0% will be 2 assist cycles, 0% will be 1 assist cycles.
100% of cycles will have a truss toss.
50% of cycles will have a catch.
0% will eventually be scored in the low goal. 90% will eventually be scored high, and 10% will not score.

Assist Points 30 pts
Truss Points 10 pts
Catch Points (0.5 * 10) = 5 pts
Goal Points (0.9*10) = 9 pts
Cycle worth 54 pts * 90% of the time, 0 pts the remaining 10% = 48.6 pts /cycle * 5 cycles /match = 243 pts.

The 'best' alliance will score 305 pts in an average match.

Max score I think is even potentially possible? 75pt auto, 7x perfect 60 point 3 assist cycles with truss/catch = 495 pts. A perfect auto, leaves you with 2:20 to play. 7 cycles is 20 seconds/cycle.

Brandon Zalinsky 09-01-2014 13:39

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
Goin' with 75 for quals, 110 for elims

Uncle Paul 09-01-2014 15:27

Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts
 
I expect early qualification rounds will be around 50, but finals scores will be closer to 200!


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