Can you catch your own ball?
 

So the rules say :

I'm a little confused. Does "that ROBOT" refer to the alliance partner who scored the ball over the truss, or the robot who has the alliance partner?

In other words, can you launch your ball over the truss and catch it on the other side? Or does it have to be separate robots?

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

Yes, you can catch it. No, no catch points will be awarded.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

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Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

The only way I can parse the rule cleanly is for "that ROBOT" to be the ROBOT whose ALLIANCE partner SCORED the BALL over the TRUSS. It is clear to me that you won't earn points for catching a ball you threw yourself.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

But I (as "that ROBOT") am an ALLIANCE robot myself. My robot is just as much an ALLIANCE partner as the other two

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

The rules clearly say that you cannot receive catch points off a ball that you also threw.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

It'd be kinda cool to do and particularly advantageous if both alliance partners aren't moving well. It's an edge case though.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

I am unable to make the leap to say that you are your own partner.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

To understand alliances you must understand alliances. (a la the recursion quote).

But, seriously, I view the "partner" as referring to two different robots. The sentence is poorly worded and needs clarification, as the "that ROBOT" portion seems to indicate the same robot.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

the rule states a robot's alliance partner throws and that robot catches.
That is probably being used as an adjective to delineate a reference to "a robot" It is grammatically awkward.

Better wording would be

A CATCH occurs when a BALL SCORED over the TRUSS by a ROBOT is POSSESSED by either of the two non-truss scoring ROBOTS from the same ALLIANCE as the truss scoring robot before contacting the carpet or HUMAN PLAYER

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

This kind of relates to the originally proposed question...
Do you HAVE to catch the ball thrown over the truss in order to get the truss points, or does the ball just have to be thrown over the truss to get those points?
I would ask on FRC Q&A, but it's not open yet, so I was hoping that someone on CD would be able to clarify for me.
Thanks.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

You have to get the truss in order to get the catch. However, I see nothing indicating that a catch is necessary to get truss points.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

Correct. Else there would be no point in awarding 10 points separately. If you had to do both things to make either count, then they would just have defined a 20-point task.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

The rule never mentions CATCHING the BALL in regards to TRUSS scoring. Read the manual for what it says, no need to assume anything else. It does not say you need to catch the ball to score. Hope this helps.

Re: Can you catch your own ball?
 

Thanks guys. I thought that they didn't have to be coorelated, but I wasn't too sure.