Re: Paper Scouting Sheets/ideas
 

Yes, we have a separate sheet for pit/pre scouting.

Re: Paper Scouting Sheets/ideas
 

Hey team 4911,

I'm the president of Ingraham's robotics club(team 4030), and I would like to tell you about paperless scouting. Most people aren't normally aware of this, but there are great resources for paperless scouting. Aviation has their own scouting app, which allows you to look at data they collected, and it tends to be very accurate as they have a large scouting team.

Also, Ingraham's team has a data collection app (http://dev.ingrahamrobotics.org/), that allows you to look at all sorts of stats on different teams by event location, and look at info from past events.

The disadvantage to using apps is that in order to access the data base, you need a WiFi connection, which can be a problem. Most events have them if they aren't in high-schools, however if the event you are going to is in a high-school, you can email the school, and request their WiFi password.

For FRC, scouting is a very important aspect that a lot of teams overlook, so i'm glad you guys are interested.

If you want to learn about the app more, Ingraham's FRC team will be attending the event your team is hosting on 2/7/14, so I look forward to seeing you there

-Gambitron

Re: Paper Scouting Sheets/ideas
 

What is the reason behind recording drive train, shooters etc? The way I see it, I don't care what they use, I just care about how well they use it. What are your reasons behind recording those things?

Re: Paper Scouting Sheets/ideas
 

Since i have joined my team i hve been trying to figure out the reason ing for these questions and they still dont have a point. thank you for beeing one of the few that sees it. lol :]

Re: Paper Scouting Sheets/ideas
 

I think there's quite a few more that see it... My personal take is that pit scouting should be pictures and asking how stuff works. (And making friends with as many teams as possible.) Any estimated quantities of scoring are decent... but I never trust 'em, too easy to bluff/overestimate/apples-to-oranges comparison--and the data from the stands should be able to call any bluff pretty easily.

On the other hand, if a team were to tell me that they played shutdown D, no penalties, and could acquire a ball in 2 seconds and release to a partner in 2 after moving, and then back it up on the field under counter-defense, I'd really be looking at 'em as a good solid alliance member.

Re: Paper Scouting Sheets/ideas
 

If used properly in conjunction with match related scouting data, these types of metrics can be used very effectively for selection and strategy development. Many times the elimination rounds play out much differently than qualifying rounds and teams forming alliances are looking for a specific qualities - especially with regard to a second alliance pick.

Does your strategy require a robot that can pick off from the floor or only from the human player?

Does your alliance strategy require a pure defense bot? Maybe a stronger drive train with traction wheels will give you the pushing advantage you need. Or do you you want a highly mobile alliance and only want swerve or mecanum drive trains?

How about pictures of robots that are taken?

Typically it is difficult for teams to integrate this type of qualitative data in with the quantitative data gathered through watching matches. A team with a strong scouting foundation with a database that makes it easy for them to manipulate data as they see fit will be able to take advantage of this additional information.

Re: Paper Scouting Sheets/ideas
 

paper scouting though a bit of a pain sometimes but is great for those who aren't app makers or doesn't have the tech to operate them efficiently

this is what 2429 will be rolling with this year

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=126104