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Steve Kaneb 06-01-2014 21:39
FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Think outside the box!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyQQt_3u0Y
Never give up! We put several iterations into this system before we could get it to work as shown.

Good luck to all the other RI30M teams!

Short Stuff 06-01-2014 21:44
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but to me that does not quite look like it will fit within the rules regarding appendages extending above the 60 inch limit.

Billfred 06-01-2014 21:53
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Short Stuff (Post 1322811)
Correct me if I am wrong, but to me that does not quite look like it will fit within the rules regarding appendages extending above the 60 inch limit.
This is 190's (infamous) 2008 robot. :)

Zebra_Fact_Man 06-01-2014 21:55
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Nailed it.

I see no rules broken here.

Short Stuff 06-01-2014 21:57
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
OK I did not realize that:)

BrendanB 06-01-2014 21:59
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Man we are really behind! Looks sweet your 2008/2011 robots were very cool!

I find it funny, I guess that video format is a WPI thing! One of our students used the same template after Battlecry this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jibVkEqZ_B8

Nuttyman54 06-01-2014 22:10
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
How the heck did you re-string that elevator in less than 30 minutes?

Racer26 06-01-2014 22:22
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
...I loved this robot.

It was one of those game-breaking robots that the GDC changed the rules for. Crappy for 190, but it was a great risky idea.

190 has a few rules attributed to their outside-the-box ways.

Ty Tremblay 06-01-2014 22:40
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
What? The suction cup still works? How many iterations does that make?

AndyBare 06-01-2014 23:10
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
I believe you can only go above 60 inches when in YOUR GOALIE ZONE. Your scoring goals are behind the other teams goalie zone. So...

Jay O'Donnell 06-01-2014 23:29
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyBare (Post 1322893)
I believe you can only go above 60 inches when in YOUR GOALIE ZONE. Your scoring goals are behind the other teams goalie zone. So...
This isn't a serious robot, it's just some guys taking an old robot and having some fun with the new game.

AndyBare 06-01-2014 23:35
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
I figured. I was just making sure they knew.

Dave McLaughlin 07-01-2014 01:16
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Did I see some shoe wheels on there, or was that a lens flare?

Rishabhgadi 07-01-2014 11:38
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyBare (Post 1322893)
I believe you can only go above 60 inches when in YOUR GOALIE ZONE. Your scoring goals are behind the other teams goalie zone. So...
Yea but it is only supposed to. Be 6in in diameter, and it's the 2008 robot

Lil' Lavery 07-01-2014 11:51
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1322869)
...I loved this robot.

It was one of those game-breaking robots that the GDC changed the rules for. Crappy for 190, but it was a great risky idea.

190 has a few rules attributed to their outside-the-box ways.
Change the rules? No. 190 built an edge case that was designed to break the game, and the GDC simply clarified that they would indeed recieve a <G22> penalty each rotation of the arm. Though, at their first event, it wasn't called that way and their robot still wasn't overly competitive compared to more "traditional" designs.

mwtidd 07-01-2014 11:58
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1323080)
Change the rules? No. 190 built an edge case that was designed to break the game, and the GDC simply clarified that they would indeed recieve a <G22> penalty each rotation of the arm. Though, at their first event, it wasn't called that way and their robot still wasn't overly competitive compared to more "traditional" designs.
Quote:
Direction Of Traffic – ROBOTS must proceed around the TRACK in a counter-clockwise
direction. Once a ROBOT has CROSSED a LANE MARKER or FINISH LINE, it shall not
break the plane of the line by moving in the clockwise direction. A PENALTY will be
assigned for each infraction.
One could argue that their robot actually never moved in a clockwise direction, thus not violating the rule.

Rypsnort 07-01-2014 12:14
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
goes to show how ideas from past years can be used this year.

Lil' Lavery 07-01-2014 13:46
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1323085)
One could argue that their robot actually never moved in a clockwise direction, thus not violating the rule.
Every rotation of their arm including the robot entering the zone clockwise from their current position. The CW and CCW references were relative to the field, meaning entering hte zone CW from their current position incurred a G22 penalty.

Regardless, this discussion is not something that really needs to be brought up again. While 190 in 2008 is one of those "infamous" robots (along with 1519 in 2008, 68 in 2003, etc.), the topics here have been hashed out repeatedly and the rulings are no longer particularly relevant.

ColleenShaver 07-01-2014 14:05
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
In all seriousness, this was supposed to be a fun post to get a few laughs. As the Styx song goes "[we've] got too much time on [our] hands"

We know it's certainly not legal for the 2014 because of a variety of reasons.

Additionally, the legality of our 2008 robot does not really matter. It's been 6 years! No one except our team, the referees at our events, and the GDC has all the information on exactly what happened, so those are the only folks with any real authority to comment on the matter. It was what it was, it is what it is, so let's all worry about the 2014 game!

mwtidd 07-01-2014 14:22
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1323085)
One could argue that their robot actually never moved in a clockwise direction, thus not violating the rule.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColleenShaver (Post 1323168)
In all seriousness, this was supposed to be a fun post to get a few laughs. As the Styx song goes "[we've] got too much time on [our] hands"

We know it's certainly not legal for the 2014 because of a variety of reasons.

Additionally, the legality of our 2008 robot does not really matter. It's been 6 years! No one except our team, the referees at our events, and the GDC has all the information on exactly what happened, so those are the only folks with any real authority to comment on the matter. It was what it was, it is what it is, so let's all worry about the 2014 game!
My bad... Didn't mean to bring up old an thread.

It was pretty funny seeing 190 tangled in that rats nest at BAE that year. :)

Austin1018 08-01-2014 17:30
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
I see only one rule broken...

You cannot extent into the goal (Outside of the playing field) to make the score. Seen here, this is broken ;)

Racer26 08-01-2014 17:32
Re: FRC190's Robot in 30 Minutes
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1323156)
Every rotation of their arm including the robot entering the zone clockwise from their current position. The CW and CCW references were relative to the field, meaning entering hte zone CW from their current position incurred a G22 penalty.

Regardless, this discussion is not something that really needs to be brought up again. While 190 in 2008 is one of those "infamous" robots (along with 1519 in 2008, 68 in 2003, etc.), the topics here have been hashed out repeatedly and the rulings are no longer particularly relevant.
118 in 2012...


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