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Justin Shelley 14-01-2014 22:56

New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Now you can pick a shooting and intake choice, sorry for the mistake earlier

Interested in knowing what style intake and shooter your team is planning on using this year so I made a poll
Here is how I define the different styles
Intake:
ElToro- spinning horns/rods that feed ball from ground
Wheels- spinning wheels that go over ball and feed it into robot
Other- Please Explain

Shooting:
Catapult- Arm that throws ball like a catapult does
Wheels- Spinning wheels that launch ball out like last year and year before
Kicking Arm- Works like a foot under a soccer ball
Simbot- 1114 in 2008
Other- Please Explain

Thank You For Your Response!!!!

Christopher149 14-01-2014 22:58

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Plan:
-Wheels + Catapult

Wheels since it will probably work well, and catapult since we got the prototype working today.

cmrnpizzo14 14-01-2014 23:23

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
A popular other option might be claws. Maybe a good idea to add if you can edit the poll.

Anupam Goli 14-01-2014 23:29

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Haven't dedicated to anything yet, still in the prototyping and tuning phases, but we're kinda leaning towards catapult. Intake, we still have a lot of things to CAD and test.

mrnoble 14-01-2014 23:38

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
We've tested a ballista and are building a compound bow in addition to the shooter types listed. There's still time before final decisions need to be made.

geomapguy 14-01-2014 23:45

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
We tested a winch-catapult design but felt going with a motorized design similar to Boom Done was a better route.

blazeflipper 16-01-2014 18:55

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
My team has been building a pneumatic shooter the past couple days. We had been running into the problem of not enough air to the cylinders to get the height needed. Today we added air tanks after the solenoids and lowered the mounting point for the two four inch long pistons and we had enough power to break a 2 by 4 in half when we dry fired. If your team is thinking about pneumatic I would highly recommend it, if you set it up correctly it has more power than you could ever need.

bEdhEd 17-01-2014 03:12

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We're going with a winch pulled launcher that has a seat for the ball. The seat sits on top of a track, and the seat gets pulled back by a ratcheting winch, and when released, the seat moves along the track and stops abruptly at the end, therefore launching the ball. It's basically a ball puncher without the ball in front, but on top, if that makes any sense.

The track is on a pivot to allow for loading from the back, and aiming.

Just imagine an aircraft carrier catapult, or a crossbow, and you'll probably get what I mean.

The attachment shows a pic of an aircraft carrier catapult, and it follows the same idea.

This design was actually inspired by the linear human catapult I saw in the "Wipeout Zone" obstacle course on the ABC show "Wipeout."

Inspiration comes from the least expected places, don't they?

GarrettF2395 17-01-2014 05:34

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bEdhEd (Post 1328395)
We're going with a winch pulled launcher that has a seat for the ball. The seat sits on top of a track, and the seat gets pulled back by a ratcheting winch, and when released, the seat moves along the track and stops abruptly at the end, therefore launching the ball. It's basically a ball puncher without the ball in front, but on top, if that makes any sense.

This design was actually inspired by the linear human catapult I saw in the "Wipeout Zone" obstacle course on the ABC show "Wipeout."

Inspiration comes from the least expected places, don't they?

This was one of the three main designs we pursued and prototyped on 2395 but we had difficulty getting the rig to work properly.
So we have opted to be like everyone else and build a catapult, because the prototype showed the most promise and the design was the easiest for us to build (not saying that's a bad thing).

Sometimes good engineering requires following the crowd.
Though we have a few ideas that might set it apart from the others of course ;)

As for the intake, we're not going with wheels, or the "el toro", but rather an older Dr. Joe inspired intake which is also going to have a Ninja Munkees twist :D

bEdhEd 17-01-2014 12:51

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GarrettF2395 (Post 1328403)
This was one of the three main designs we pursued and prototyped on 2395 but we had difficulty getting the rig to work properly.
So we have opted to be like everyone else and build a catapult, because the prototype showed the most promise and the design was the easiest for us to build (not saying that's a bad thing).

Sometimes good engineering requires following the crowd.
Though we have a few ideas that might set it apart from the others of course ;)

As for the intake, we're not going with wheels, or the "el toro", but rather an older Dr. Joe inspired intake which is also going to have a Ninja Munkees twist :D

Our team is the opposite, I guess. Our puncher works better than the catapults we've tried.

EricDrost 17-01-2014 13:03

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bEdhEd (Post 1328496)
Our team is the opposite, I guess. Our puncher works better than the catapults we've tried.

Because your puncher has a fairly large surface area contacting the ball. That's the trick I think a lot of puncher prototypes are missing.

bEdhEd 17-01-2014 23:08

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricDrost (Post 1328500)
Because your puncher has a fairly large surface area contacting the ball. That's the trick I think a lot of puncher prototypes are missing.


I think you're right on that. The smaller surface areas put more energy into deforming the ball at a smaller point, rather than spreading it out on a larger surface for a more efficient push that deforms the ball less and more evenly, thus dedicating more energy to the launch.

faust1706 18-01-2014 00:26

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1327358)
Simbot- 1114 in 2008

How many other people immediately thought of this right after kick off? During out shooter brain storming I pulled up a video of them dominating on Einstein. We also looked at their multiple uber tube in autonomous in 2011 just to prove that it is possible to score an alliance member's game piece in autonomous. (We're going big and trying to score both our alliance members balls into the hot goal this year. Or at the very least have their ball in our possession for the beginning of tele-op).

thursam 18-01-2014 11:05

Re: New Poll on What Are You Using
 
Here's our system. The sound is kind of... bleh, but it's audible, nonetheless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Hd...ature=youtu.be

And I love that Team 1114's robot is a reccuring theme this year.


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