Jaguars and Talons
 

Are Jaguars and Talons compatible? Nothing that I have found shows that there are any key differences that would create problems if we used both on the same bot, but I'm curious if anyone has insight on this. Thanks!

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

Depends how you want to use them.

-Mixing in the drivetrain - NO

-Elsewhere - Sure, unless the two motors are sharing the same load

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

Why not?

Why not?

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

Well Ether,

I would suspect because the motor curves are different??

What's the exact explanation or correction?

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

He means the controller curve. A Victor has a different curve from the Talon, which has a different curve from the Jaguar. Mix up the motor controllers and some motors are not spinning as fast as others, causing strafing in the drivetrain, or abrasion in a motor set, when a motor needs to fight the less power being received by a different motor. In real life, while these issues are quite minimal because a lot of work is done to make the curve more linear, It isn't what you want for precision operation!

The code is something that hasn't been discussed too much. Using the same motor controller for at least a specific component will ensure that the code stays cleaner and easier to understand. You don't want to look at programming jargon, where half a subsystem runs code for a Victor/Talon, and the other half runs the Jaguars. That just becomes very messy and can be hard to understand.

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

It's OK to combine motors with different motor curves.

For example, a CIM and a mini-CIM on the same gearbox.

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

My bad, as Yash 101 said, I meant controller curves

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

So why is that not OK,if it's OK to combine motors with different curves?

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

Hmmm good point. I just always assumed it was just bad practice.

SO does it have much effect???

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

If you're trying to do closed-loop control there might be situations where it might be preferable to match the controllers.

Hey CD, any teams out there who used 1 Jag and 1 Talon for each 2-CIM gearbox on each side ?

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

Slightly different but same principal I guess: This year we had 3 884 victors from vex and then 1 884 from Ifi and there was a significant difference in our drive train as it would turn ever slightly to the side. However, those were not jaguars or talons so not sure about that combination of those two. Also, all of the victors were tested beforehand and worked well. Just figured this would help a bit even if it wasn't what you were looking for exactly

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

Well........IFI owns VEXPro so essentially it was just an older 884 and a newer one. There was a year there where they rebranded their stuff. So accordingly, we have IFI spikes and VexPro Spikes

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

Unless you swapped the two left-side Vics with the two right-side ones and observed that the problem switched sides, you can't conclude that the turning was caused by a difference in the Vics.

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

You could run unmatched tires on your car but I would not recommend it.

Re: Jaguars and Talons
 

Not analogous.