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patar8746 20-01-2014 11:30

VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Has anyone ever assembled a Vex WCP DS Gearbox? My team is using the 3-CIM west coast option on our drive system this year, and we've never done anything like this. In the past, we've only used single-speed gearboxes, so I have no experience with any 2-speed systems except the AndyMark Sonic Shifters. Any good assembly guides, instructions, or a detailed pdf that would enable me to figure it out would be awesome.

The only things VEX gives me are here:
http://www.vexrobotics.com/wcp-ds.html

patar8746 20-01-2014 14:00

VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Anyone know how to assemble a Vex WCP DS gearbox? Our team is using the 3 CIM WCD option and I can't find anything on how to assemble it.

RonnieS 20-01-2014 16:28

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patar8746 (Post 1329675)
Has anyone ever assembled a Vex WCP DS Gearbox? My team is using the 3-CIM west coast option on our drive system this year, and we've never done anything like this. In the past, we've only used single-speed gearboxes, so I have no experience with any 2-speed systems except the AndyMark Sonic Shifters. Any good assembly guides, instructions, or a detailed pdf that would enable me to figure it out would be awesome.

The only things VEX gives me are here:
http://www.vexrobotics.com/wcp-ds.html

I would suggest opening the step file in a cad software. This will show you how they have it assembled and could help you assemble yours.


NOTE: I am NOT guaranteeing your shifter will work 100% perfectly if you assemble it based of their cad, use common sense and you will get it together.

R.C. 20-01-2014 16:47

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patar8746 (Post 1329675)
Has anyone ever assembled a Vex WCP DS Gearbox? My team is using the 3-CIM west coast option on our drive system this year, and we've never done anything like this. In the past, we've only used single-speed gearboxes, so I have no experience with any 2-speed systems except the AndyMark Sonic Shifters. Any good assembly guides, instructions, or a detailed pdf that would enable me to figure it out would be awesome.

The only things VEX gives me are here:
http://www.vexrobotics.com/wcp-ds.html

The manuals are being finished up. Will be posted to both the WCP and VEX site soon.

Arpan 22-01-2014 11:32

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
How soon is soon? Trying to figure out whether our team should wait on the manuals or take the higher-risk option of using the CAD.

patar8746 22-01-2014 17:14

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie314 (Post 1329821)
I would suggest opening the step file in a cad software. This will show you how they have it assembled and could help you assemble yours.


NOTE: I am NOT guaranteeing your shifter will work 100% perfectly if you assemble it based of their cad, use common sense and you will get it together.

The gears we are using are pretty different from the ones in the step file. Are we going to be fine, or is this not going to work for us?

Grant Cox 22-01-2014 18:19

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Arpan and patar, sorry for the delay and your confusion. Each manual goes through a multi-person review process before being published to ensure that our users do not experience unnecessary difficulty with these new gearboxes.

The WCP DS assembly manual is going through its final formatting stages right now. Optimistically, I'll say you should have it as soon as tomorrow. Pessimistically, no later than close of business Friday.

If you need immediate help, you can contact our tech support by emailing prosupport@vex.com or calling 903-453-0802. They're versed in the product, and have been helping to write the assembly manuals.

patar8746 22-01-2014 19:57

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Thanks for the help. Can you tell me where I'll be able to find it tomorrow?

Grant Cox 23-01-2014 19:03

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
All manuals are being posted on their respective product pages, at the bottom in the "Downloads & Docs" section. The WCP DS got its 2 CIM assembly manual today, and we should have the 3 CIM version up tomorrow alongside it.

Thad House 23-01-2014 19:07

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Cool. I've been wanting to read though them just to see how the different ones have assembled.

Just so you guys know, the WCP SS WCD manual is the wrong link. Both the standard and the WCD versions are linking to the same manual.

patar8746 23-01-2014 19:28

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
When will the WCD ones be up?

Ricky Q. 23-01-2014 20:16

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sst.thad (Post 1331424)
Cool. I've been wanting to read though them just to see how the different ones have assembled.

Just so you guys know, the WCP SS WCD manual is the wrong link. Both the standard and the WCD versions are linking to the same manual.

Thanks for pointing that out. The error is fixed now.

Best,
Ricky

Grant Cox 24-01-2014 17:03

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Hey guys, we just dropped the WCP DS 3 CIM instructions onto the web. The WCD version is being finished up, but since I promised you instructions by the weekend, here's some tips that should get you taken care of.

The major difference between the standard and WCD versions is the gap between the two black transmission plates - the WCD version includes some additional space for a sprocket or pulley to be contained inside the gearbox. This means that before mounting the front plate (step 9 in the standard manual), you'll want to slide your sprocket or pulley onto the output shaft. Check out these pictures (from the upcoming WCD manual) for the necessary spacer layout: 6WD or 8WD.

Note: If using belts, make sure you loop the belt onto the pulley BEFORE mounting the other transmission plate, or you'll have to disassemble it and start over (like Team Copioli did during Build Blitz ;) ).

The front plate goes on with the same Step 9 as the standard manual, with the appropriately longer spacers / bolts, and the rest of the steps are identical. When the gearbox is assembled, install it into your chassis frame using either the Gearbox Bearing Block or the outside half of a VersaBlock. It's probably easiest to mount the gearbox to the VersaChassis tube (or whatever chassis you're using) first, then slide the bearing block over the output shaft and through the chassis, like so.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

BJT 24-01-2014 20:28

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
We have wcp 3cim wcd gearboxes and have a minor issue, the bigger dog shifter gear slips off its bearing a little too easy and ends up flopping around loose on the dog? between the gears. Did we miss a step or should we loctite it on or something?

magnets 24-01-2014 20:47

Re: VexPro WCP DS Gearbox Assembly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BJT (Post 1331913)
We have wcp 3cim wcd gearboxes and have a minor issue, the bigger dog shifter gear slips off its bearing a little too easy and ends up flopping around loose on the dog? between the gears. Did we miss a step or should we loctite it on or something?

I've never used a WCP gearbox before, but considering the shifting mechanism is a clone of the andymark one (which is pressfit) and there's no retaining ring in either the manual, the list of included parts or the CAD drawing, I'd say it's supposed to press fit. Measure the gear with calipers, and tell me how big the bore is. It'd be nice to know the size.

Their CAD model shows exactly 1.125", which isn't a tight press fit, but it shouldn't be just fall apart, so you have a bad part.... I'd try locktite, or a really big retaining ring.


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