Chief Delphi

Chief Delphi (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/index.php)
-   General Forum (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16)
-   -   Robot "Barn Find" (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124951)

Matt C 20-01-2014 13:06

Robot "Barn Find"
 
I know most have probably heard of finding old cars in barns after being stored for years. How about robots?


Well more like a tent recovery.


OK, so here is the back story:

Waaaay back in 2005-2006, I had the opportunity to save the last remnants from my old high school's FIRST robotics program. The program had ended with the 2004 season with a local regional win. This is the same team that back in 2002 seeded first and won the Einstein division at Nationals and made it to the finals (look at those casters!). Anyway, the 2k4 robot is off to be "restored" back to working condition by a West Islip robotics mentor who was a senior in 2004 at East Islip. He will be modifying the controls setup to use the modern control system instead of the old Innovation First box.

The 2k2 robot was stripped a while back and needs significant repair and replacement of missing components to be able to be brought back to operational condition, but it could be a random future project for posterity sake.

Mr. Mike 20-01-2014 13:25

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Just me but there was a lot of COTS parts that could have been reused. I don't thick I would use the battery.


My first car was a '66 Mustang that I bought for $300.

Akash Rastogi 20-01-2014 13:26

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Best I can do is $5 for the whole lot.

Bryce2471 20-01-2014 13:30

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
That is too cool!

Where was this? How did you end up finding them?
Can it be assumed that team 311 no longer exists?
Their blue alliance page comes up with a 404 error.

dipmeinaluminum 20-01-2014 13:32

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
did you want to pawn it or sell it?


can you wait, I have a friend who is an expert in this field.

BigJ 20-01-2014 13:41

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1329718)
Best I can do is $5 for the whole lot.

Let me call up my friend who's an expert on decade old robots found in tents

Al Skierkiewicz 20-01-2014 13:52

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Wow! Drill motors!

East Islip, NY

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...85&postcount=1

Akash Rastogi 20-01-2014 13:53

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigJ (Post 1329727)
Let me call up my friend who's an expert on decade old robots found in tents

Yeah, he said it really isn't worth my time.

Take the $5 or leave it.

JVN 20-01-2014 13:57

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigJ (Post 1329727)
Let me call up my friend who's an expert on decade old robots found in tents

What the customer DOESN'T know, is that this robot was on the alliance with 1114 for the first ever Simbotics Regional Victory...

Maybe it does belong in a museum?

BigJ 20-01-2014 14:01

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN (Post 1329736)
What the customer DOESN'T know, is that this robot was on the alliance with 1114 for the first ever Simbotics Regional Victory...

Maybe it does belong in a museum?

Oh, don't call the museum guy, he always refuses to give an estimate

Matt C 20-01-2014 14:03

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryce2471 (Post 1329721)
That is too cool!

Where was this? How did you end up finding them?
Can it be assumed that team 311 no longer exists?
Their blue alliance page comes up with a 404 error.

Team 311 WAS East Islip High School "The Red Jammers"

Joe Ross 20-01-2014 14:14

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
This is a much better result then being sold on reality tv: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=96611

Travis Hoffman 20-01-2014 14:51

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN (Post 1329736)
What the customer DOESN'T know, is that this robot was on the alliance with 1114 for the first ever Simbotics Regional Victory...

Maybe it does belong in a museum?

Noooooo Karthik (drive team coach!) shirt removal celebration flashbacks nooooooooooo

Kevin Ray 20-01-2014 16:08

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
What's really interesting is that this team competed in Zone Zeal 2002 against FIRST Team 71 and FIRST team 173 ( This is back in the day when we had two team alliances).
Team 71 was approaching the height of their epic run and was essentially unbeatable. To this day I think those matches on Einstein were two of the best matches ever. 71, sponsored by Beatty, was breaking the box apart--not just thinking outside it. They created a "crawler" bot which dragged the two opponents and two 180 LB goals across the floor while Team Rage (173) "Hoovered" all the soccer balls off the floor and dumped them in 71's goals to blow the competition away. They almost got beat in the final match, however, when 311 (or their alliance partner) reconfigured their start such that it raced across the entire field and hit 71 before they could deploy their robot into the starting position. Since 71 could only move in a straight line, they could not steer once deployed. Being knocked off line they were useless as a scoring machine (the only time it happened all year). 173, their ally stepped up to the challenge and sucked up most of the balls, backed up to one of the goals and dumped, then dragged the goal into their scoring end to win, single-handedly!!! I still remember it as though it were yesterday. ...And I was only in the crowd as a spectator. Had it been a sporting event, it would have made the all-time favorite replay reels.

Speaking of which (and I hate when people change the topic-so I'll just mention it quickly), wouldn't it be awesome if someone were able to gather videos of the all-time great matches and make a narrated disc for teams to have? They could even sell them as a fund raiser for charity or off-set the cost of running a divisional or regional competition.

Matt C 20-01-2014 16:58

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
71 didn't just grab two goals, they'd grabbed all three... and it was SPAM that ran across and hit them as they fell and pushed them into the corner.

Also, note the pictures of the 2002 robot. CASTERS!

Tem1514 Mentor 20-01-2014 17:46

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
The robots are great keepers but if I had to decide, I take the car.:)

Billfred 20-01-2014 19:24

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
I remember that 2004 311 machine from my very first Championship--I worked Archimedes that year and saw them tangling with WildStang, Rhode Warriors, Sie-H2O-Bots, Martians...and yes, Beatty.

It's always great to see old robots together, maybe even functioning. It's something worth fighting for.

Brian C 20-01-2014 22:10

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Ray (Post 1329809)
What's really interesting is that this team competed in Zone Zeal 2002 against FIRST Team 71 and FIRST team 173 ( This is back in the day when we had two team alliances).

Kevin,

This WAS the pinnacle of East Islip's abilities. I was a mentor with them since 1999 when my son (Matt C) was a sophomore. We were #1 seed in our division, back when Einstein was still a division and chose teams 308 from Walled Lake MI and 180 SPAM. As you said this was still 2 team alliances and you HAD to swap out during eliminations so each team got to play.

We lost the first match of finals on the Einstein stage. We were able to win the second match when SPAM with their ridicously powerfull drivetrain (remember these were still only DRILL motors.) was able to speed across the field and into 71's machine just about the time the soccer ball arrived. 308was able to lift 2 of the goals, which I believe weighed around 180 lbs EACH when empty and carry them into scoring position. Chris Hibner on here was on the drive team of 308 that year. I'm sure he'll chime in with his thoughts as well.

It was the only time 71 had been beaten during all of Championships that year.

We discovered some stripped teeth in 308's gearbox after that and went into the final match with 311 and 180. Lost the rubber match and ended up World Champioship finalists.

Brian C 20-01-2014 22:17

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN (Post 1329736)
What the customer DOESN'T know, is that this robot was on the alliance with 1114 for the first ever Simbotics Regional Victory...

Maybe it does belong in a museum?

I believe team 1114 was #2 seed at the Long Island Regional in 2004 right behind 311 and they were East Islip's first pick (wouldn't you?) At the time they were still a relatively new team but we could see by their organization and the quality of their machine that they had big aspirations.

It really is interesting to look back on the pre-VEX, Andymark days.

Those 'screamer' radios worked pretty darn good! IFI built, and still builds some nice stuff!!

Brian C 20-01-2014 22:26

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dipmeinaluminum (Post 1329722)
did you want to pawn it or sell it?


can you wait, I have a friend who is an expert in this field.

That's some funny stuff!

2 quick stories I have to relate regarding the 2002 Championships:

Matt C was in his freshman year at WPI working with team 190.

1. In order to get to the championship finals team 311, his High School team ewhich I still mentored had to compete against WPI in the Championship Semi-finals as they had won their division as well. Talk about family rivalry. :ahh:

2. After finishing as champion runner-ups in EPCOT team 311 attended BattleCry at WPI in May. Guess who we met in the finals there? Team 173 RAGE. This time 311 was able to pull out the win, with lots of help from the Rhode Warriors and team 190 who was on our alliance as well. That settled any leftover family issues......:p

Chris Hibner 23-01-2014 08:19

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
That was a great time. I have very fond memories of that day, and I swear I remember every match.

Somewhere in my house I have an old mini-camcorder VHS tape of that entire tournament run. I remember getting up that morning and telling my wife, "you better have all of the batteries charged for the camcorder, because I have a feeling that we're going to win it all today and I want to have every match on video." I just had a really good feeling that morning. My good feeling came up just one match short.

I remember we had a match against 311 during qualifiers. They were the #1 seed going into the match, and we knew we had to make that match count. We did our usual thing of racing out, grabbing the goals, lifting them up, and then being able to drive where ever we wanted. I looked across the field during the match and you could see the frustration on 311's entire drive team. Afterward I went to the coach of 311 and said something like, "I love your machine - we could do well together," and he said something along the lines of, "yeah... I don't think we want to go against that again." After that I started feeling pretty good about our chances.

Speaking of 190 - didn't they have that great CVT that year?

Thanks for the great memories, Brian.

Matt C 23-01-2014 15:15

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hibner (Post 1331201)
Speaking of 190 - didn't they have that great CVT that year?

You mean the overly complicated toroid drive continuously variable transmission that was built for the machine that was effectively designed to park in one spot the entire match?

Yes.

Garrett.d.w 23-01-2014 16:15

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Okay, so I know this is sort of off topic, but it is really bothering me. Is the mustang a 1965? My dad and I are arguing about it XD

Matt C 23-01-2014 17:30

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrett.d.w (Post 1331350)
Okay, so I know this is sort of off topic, but it is really bothering me. Is the mustang a 1965? My dad and I are arguing about it XD

The Mustang in the picture is a 1965 coupe. It's my first car that I got for high school graduation. The body is the same between "1964.5" and 1966.

Gary Dillard 23-01-2014 18:09

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Wow do I remember that robot! We came so close with you guys that year, what an awesome run. I've still got the videos of the finals on my harddrive- they finally disappeared from the NASA archives online. And I'm still trying to get the video of our match against WildStang in the Newton semi's from our driver that year.

Found them on YouTube (of course)

Finals Match 1 - the legendary Beatty crawl

Finals Match 2 - SPAM knocks out Beatty

Finals Match 3 - Rage cleans up

Animal Control 23-01-2014 18:16

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
I would like to see what becomes of it. I wish I could help out. But all I can say is cool.

Chris Hibner 23-01-2014 21:34

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt C (Post 1331328)
You mean the overly complicated toroid drive continuously variable transmission that was built for the machine that was effectively designed to park in one spot the entire match?

Yes.

Well, the pit demo was cool. And it couldn't have been that bad - they made it to the elims at Epcot.

Matt C 23-01-2014 22:10

Re: Robot "Barn Find"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hibner (Post 1331485)
Well, the pit demo was cool. And it couldn't have been that bad - they made it to the elims at Epcot.

No, it was a thing of beauty, just overly complicated for the function it had. The file cards were what got us into the elims. :D


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 21:09.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi