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Ether 11-02-2014 10:09

Re: Best Way to Tie Off Surgical Tubing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay (Post 1341142)
Maybe they want to reuse the plug?

If that is what is driving the decision, it sounds penny wise and pound foolish.



Mark McLeod 11-02-2014 10:22

Re: Best Way to Tie Off Surgical Tubing
 
It's not the friction of the plug inside the tubing that's responsible for holding tight.
The plug is trapped by pulling up tight against the outside cinch.
It's the cinch of the Kevlar thread outside keeping the monkey's fist inside the jar.

Ether 11-02-2014 10:40

Re: Best Way to Tie Off Surgical Tubing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1341154)
It's not the friction of the plug inside the tubing that's responsible for holding tight.
The plug is trapped by pulling up tight against the outside cinch.
It's the cinch of the Kevlar thread outside keeping the monkey's fist inside the jar.

Yes. If the plug is lubricated, as shown in the video, then what you describe above is the main thing keeping the tubing from pulling away. All (or most) of the stress is concentrated at the tie circumference where the tubing is crushed by the Kevlar thread biting into it.

With a less effective lubricant, the tubing would grip the plug and distribute the load over a much greater area.

My question was not whether the cinch should be eliminated, but whether there is consensus agreement in the speargun community concerning the wisdom of using such an effective and permanent lubricant. Or are there some who advocate using a less effective lubricant (for the reasons stated above).



E Dawg 11-02-2014 12:54

Re: Best Way to Tie Off Surgical Tubing
 
FORGE THEM IN THE FIRES OF MOUNT DOOM!!!!!!!!!!

In all seriousness, though, use zipties and nuts. The zipties are great for holding it down, but a nut will keep it stuck on there for good (it is also reusable, whereas zipties only last for one use).

Ether 11-02-2014 13:04

Re: Best Way to Tie Off Surgical Tubing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by E Dawg (Post 1341239)
In all seriousness, though, use zipties and nuts. The zipties are great for holding it down, but a nut will keep it stuck on there for good (it is also reusable, whereas zipties only last for one use).

On the other hand...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron 808 (Post 1340000)
Zip ties may work, but it is difficult to get the tension down hard enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron 808 (Post 1340000)
Please refrain from using hose clamps or metal wire as it will cut into the rubber.

... as will the sharp corners of metal nuts




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