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Ikillee 23-01-2014 18:12

5" wheels
 
FIRST provided 4" wheels this year and 6" wheels last year. Where can we order 5" wheels similar to the KOP wheels?

geomapguy 23-01-2014 18:18

Re: 5" wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikillee (Post 1331404)
FIRST provided 4" wheels this year and 6" wheels last year. Where can we order 5" wheels similar to the KOP wheels?

Not quite...there are almost no 5" wheels made specifically for FIRST. There might be some 5" colsons though.

waialua359 23-01-2014 18:28

Re: 5" wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikillee (Post 1331404)
FIRST provided 4" wheels this year and 6" wheels last year. Where can we order 5" wheels similar to the KOP wheels?

We're using 5" wheels again, however, had to make our own.

thursam 23-01-2014 18:33

Re: 5" wheels
 
Here's some of the 5" wheels I found.
http://www.vexrobotics.com/276-1498.html
http://www.robotmarketplace.com/prod...-RENWHEEL.html

The 2nd is a manufacturer that I have never heard of, though.

geomapguy 23-01-2014 18:39

Re: 5" wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thursam (Post 1331412)

The VEX wheels might not be able to withstand FRC applications....

Has anyone used them? Maybe they can provide insight about their strength.

Andrew Lawrence 23-01-2014 18:41

Re: 5" wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geomapguy (Post 1331415)
The VEX wheels might not be able to withstand FRC applications....

Has anyone used them? Maybe they can provide insight about their strength.

Standard VEX VRC wheels are not rated for FRC robot weights.

Chris is me 23-01-2014 19:53

Re: 5" wheels
 
The best you can do is Colsons. They are a bit heavier but they have more traction than kit wheels and will work just fine. You don't really have any other practical options that I know of. BB wheels are not suitable for drivetrains and the linked Vex wheel can't take FRC loads.

(Though you can broach those wheels to 1/2 Hex... don't ask how I know.)

bkahl 23-01-2014 19:55

Re: 5" wheels
 
The second link is for scale R/C cars. Also not for FIRST applications.

Lil' Lavery 23-01-2014 21:40

Re: 5" wheels
 
Do keep in mind that the OP never said they were to be used as drive wheels. They may be for a lower load application (intake wheels, ball handling, follower wheel, etc).

Banebots sells 4.875" wheels, though I wouldn't recommend using them as drive wheels.
http://banebots.com/c/WHB-WS-498

McMaster also carries a large variety of wheels, many of which come in a 5" diameter. To get the wheels most similar to the AndyMark KoP wheels, select a rubber tread and a "soft" durometer. Granted, these wheels are not designed specifically for FRC competition or interactions with AndyMark or VexPro parts, so some modification (namely broaching and/or drilling a bolt hole pattern) may be required.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-wheels/=qdt1ol

Ikillee 23-01-2014 22:01

Thanks everybody. We messed up our drive train after we cut it down to our custom configuration of 28"x27". The wheels were flat to the floor instead of having a slight tilt with the middle wheels as a pivot. This allows for better driving.

We decided we couldn't drill more holes because the difference was only 1/4". So the other solution was to put the 5" wheels in the middle to make up for it being flat.

We tried sticking the 6" wheel in the middle but the tilt was 2.5in off the ground which was way too much.

Ikillee 23-01-2014 22:06

The other solution is moving the axles a little further out so it can get in the proper hole which is 1/4" higher than the middle axle. However for that we need an 825 5M 15 belt from Gates so it'll fit.

We messed up big time :(

Chris is me 23-01-2014 22:09

Re: 5" wheels
 
Have you considered just switching one set of outside wheels with omni wheels?

PAR_WIG1350 23-01-2014 22:10

Re: 5" wheels
 
If it the AM14U, AndyMark should have the belt you need. By using different wheel sizes, the surface speeds of the wheels won't match up and one or both sets will suffer some degree of slipping. This will lead to excessive wear and energy loss.

Gregor 23-01-2014 22:11

Re: 5" wheels
 
Raise one of the outside wheels 1/8". Drill a clearance hole in the current existing holes for your outside wheels, then rivet or bolt a new piece of metal overtop, which the axle hole raised.

I know 610 did this last year, ask them for a few pictures.

Alan Anderson 24-01-2014 00:23

Re: 5" wheels
 
You could also attach a length of tread material (e.g. wedgetop or roughtop) to the outer rim of your center wheels. You really only need a very small bit of extra diameter in order to reduce wheel scrub while turning. Alternatively, you might try removing a bit of tread from the corner wheels to get the same effect.

The slight difference in diameters will give you some wheel scrub when driving normally, and you might see some tread wear because of it.


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