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Cash4587 26-01-2014 00:13

pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 

Answer42 26-01-2014 00:14

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Whats the gray gearbox on the cim in the top left-ish? Doesn't look like any I recognize.

geomapguy 26-01-2014 00:18

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Answer42 (Post 1332516)
Whats the gray gearbox on the cim in the top left-ish? Doesn't look like any I recognize.

maybe this

http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0401.htm

Peyton Yeung 26-01-2014 00:19

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Looks like a GEM gearbox.

Answer42 26-01-2014 00:21

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Huh, I forgot about those.

Cash4587 26-01-2014 00:26

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
You guys were correct it is the AM GEM Gearbox with 4 stages. We ran those last year on our climber and we were very pleased with their performance. One of those boxes with 3 stages had enough power to pivot our entire robot back and forth for our climbing mechanism. They are pretty tough too.

Abhishek R 26-01-2014 00:40

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Does the roller on the arm interfere at all with the trajectory of the shot?

Cash4587 26-01-2014 00:58

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Not at all, before we shoot we plan to open up the jaws all the way (or just enough) with the gearbox mounted on that pivot point. You can see it here:
http://prntscr.com/2mnlyy
The ball will have a straight path out of the shooter other than the two prongs keeping it in the shooter at the bottom.

The arm will also be able to open really wide to catch as well. Logistics of that are still being worked out.

bEdhEd 26-01-2014 01:42

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Ah there's that shooter that I couldn't find on the last picture!

Cash4587 26-01-2014 01:50

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bEdhEd (Post 1332553)
Ah there's that shooter that I couldn't find on the last picture!

Yep.! :D We are going to use 19mm Spear gun latex band. So basically really thick surgical tube. :P The plan is to have a winch gearbox that will retract the plunger that has a quick release, as well as have a worm gear driven pulley that will tension and release the Latex band for different shooter distances. If it makes sense..

lucas.alvarez96 26-01-2014 13:50

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Is anybody else doing this? Some members of our team really liked it, but we've seen many prototypes with pneumatic cylinders that hit the ball which fail miserably. Would a hammer/arm work well with this idea?

Thanks in advance :)

Chris is me 26-01-2014 13:58

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash4587 (Post 1332541)
Not at all, before we shoot we plan to open up the jaws all the way (or just enough) with the gearbox mounted on that pivot point. You can see it here:
http://prntscr.com/2mnlyy
The ball will have a straight path out of the shooter other than the two prongs keeping it in the shooter at the bottom.

The arm will also be able to open really wide to catch as well. Logistics of that are still being worked out.

Have you considered a pneumatic cylinder for this articulation? There are a few advantages. The piston provides the roller with greater normal force for intake. Software is also less complex for this motion. We are using a piston that travels from wide open to a bit under the actual resting position of the roller with a ball inside. It saves us a motor, gearbox, speed controller, and a piece of code to debug.

Cash4587 26-01-2014 14:38

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1332732)
Have you considered a pneumatic cylinder for this articulation? There are a few advantages. The piston provides the roller with greater normal force for intake. Software is also less complex for this motion. We are using a piston that travels from wide open to a bit under the actual resting position of the roller with a ball inside. It saves us a motor, gearbox, speed controller, and a piece of code to debug.

We are going to start with a motor there but we have the option to put a piston in there as well. We like having a motor there due to it's unlimited ability to pivot open and act as part of our catch mechanism.

Cash4587 26-01-2014 14:41

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas.alvarez96 (Post 1332727)
Is anybody else doing this? Some members of our team really liked it, but we've seen many prototypes with pneumatic cylinders that hit the ball which fail miserably. Would a hammer/arm work well with this idea?

Thanks in advance :)

At the moment the shooter is not using pneumatics at all. That plunger that you see is going to be powered by really thick surgical tubing. Out prototype of it as well as many other teams work really well. A piston in place of the surgical tube to power the shooter has not worked well for anybody as far as I know. The piston just does not have enough acceleration combined with force behind it to push the ball out and into the high goal very well.

Chris is me 26-01-2014 14:58

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash4587 (Post 1332744)
We are going to start with a motor there but we have the option to put a piston in there as well. We like having a motor there due to it's unlimited ability to pivot open and act as part of our catch mechanism.

Go for it. I'm sure it has advantages. That said, do you really need any more positions other than "closed" and "open enough to catch"?

cmrnpizzo14 26-01-2014 15:16

Re: pic: 4587 CAD (With a Shooter Mech.)
 
Your front wheels look smaller to me than the other two pairs, is this true or am I just seeing things?


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