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bduddy 02-06-2014 04:01 PM

Re: Car nack 2014?
 
Why is everyone focusing on playing defense on a single robot? There's only one ball - your defense should be focused on that!

nuggetsyl 02-06-2014 07:18 PM

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Mech wheeled robots will not be alliance captain, 1st pick, or 2nd pick on Einstein.

Whippet 02-06-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nuggetsyl (Post 1338783)
Mech wheeled robots will not be alliance captain, 1st pick, or 2nd pick on Einstein.

Andy Baker puts mecanum wheels on his robot ... and wins champs anyway. :rolleyes:

nuggetsyl 02-06-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whippet (Post 1338785)
Andy Baker puts mecanum wheels on his robot ... and wins champs anyway. :rolleyes:

Ok I will bite Which team did this? And my comment were for this game.

EricH 02-06-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nuggetsyl (Post 1338794)
Ok I will bite Which team did this? And my comment was for this game.

Andy Baker's team. I understand that this year, Andy Baker's robot can acquire the ball from the Human Player, throw it over the Truss and catch it itself, and score in the high goal, all in approximately 4.5 seconds. The rest of the alliance? Trying to slow down Andy Baker's robot so it can actually be seen.

Last year, Andy Baker's robot could shoot every white frisbee into the high goal in roughly 2 minutes, then dump all 6 colored frisbees into the pyramid goal (and yes, it did take two trips) while scoring the 30 point climb bonus AND hauling its partners up with it for an extra 60 points. How, you ask? It was Andy Baker's robot.


(... and sometimes they just jump into the boat. :p )

nuggetsyl 02-06-2014 07:56 PM

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Andy Baker is Chuck Norris

Sticks and stones may break your bones but Andy Baker robots will beat you

waialua359 02-06-2014 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by magnets (Post 1335457)
Also, one more prediction, this year is the year of swerve. I think we'll see at least a few of the big teams that haven't done swerve in a while (like 111, 118, 254, 1114, 148) go swerve this year.

254 has shown me 14 years and counting, that you can be successful with a WCD no matter what game is presented. I'd be shocked to see them do a swerve this year. Much like 1717 NOT doing a swerve.

Tom Bottiglieri 02-06-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 1338882)
254 has shown me 14 years and counting, that you can be successful with a WCD no matter what game is presented. I'd be shocked to see them do a swerve this year. Much like 1717 NOT doing a swerve.

Anything that moves sideways is a waste of time.

Lil' Lavery 02-08-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne TenBrink (Post 1337504)
Successful alliances will feature a combination of robots that can make a very soft toss and those that can catch the ball. The ideal pass/assist will resemble Lunacy more than Rebound Rumble or Breakaway. The transfer needs to happen in a moment's contact without careful alignment between of the passer and receiver.

Defense will be important and brutal, but less of a winning strategy than many think. Unlike previous multi-piece games where the result was based on pieces scored, a defense specialist can't produce a net "positive" for the alliance by taking down the opponent's top scorer. Having the third bot possess the ball - even briefly - is worth 20 points per cycle. Everyone that is capable of possessing the ball will be compelled to do it. Those who can't won't go far in eliminations. Defense will be everybody's part time job, not their career.

Why do you consider "career defense" and assists to be mutually exclusive?

Wayne TenBrink 02-09-2014 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1339597)
Why do you consider "career defense" and assists to be mutually exclusive?

You can specialize in defense and never "complete" a cycle, but if defense is ALL you do, you are costing your alliance 20 points per cycle. Defense specialists will need to take frequent (hopefully) pauses from playing defense to handle their own alliance ball. By the same token, offense specialists will find themselves needing to play a lot of defense.

Lil' Lavery 02-10-2014 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne TenBrink (Post 1340442)
You can specialize in defense and never "complete" a cycle, but if defense is ALL you do, you are costing your alliance 20 points per cycle. Defense specialists will need to take frequent (hopefully) pauses from playing defense to handle their own alliance ball. By the same token, offense specialists will find themselves needing to play a lot of defense.

Who says you need to "pause" playing defense to handle your alliance's ball?

TravusCubington 02-17-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by magnets (Post 1335457)
Also, one more prediction, this year is the year of swerve. I think we'll see at least a few of the big teams that haven't done swerve in a while (like 111, 118, 254, 1114, 148) go swerve this year.

#caughtbluehanded


waialua359 02-17-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TravusCubington (Post 1344844)
#caughtbluehanded


:ahh:

Whippet 02-17-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TravusCubington (Post 1344844)
#caughtbluehanded


Also from 254:
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Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1338899)
Anything that moves sideways is a waste of time.

:yikes:

Hallry 02-17-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TravusCubington (Post 1344844)
#caughtbluehanded


Hmm...http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/29988 ;)


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