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Ether 03-02-2014 15:28

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rai337 (Post 1336986)
Is there any specific reason why you put your pistons in such starting angle?

With a motor, you use a gearbox to trade speed for torque.

With a pneu cylinder, you use leverage to trade force for speed.



Bewizardment 03-02-2014 17:32

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
How are you guys loading the ball? Does the arm go down further?

sergioCorral842 03-02-2014 18:54

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Lim (Post 1336857)
How are you precisely varying the timing of the pulse to the solenoid? Are you just counting cycles in the teleop periodic loop? Does that limit you to about 20ms increments? Do you need anything more precise than that?


This is very cool stuff.

I basically use the Timer class. It does not seem to be having any issues with that.

Duncan Macdonald 04-02-2014 00:21

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
That pile of broken ceiling tile has nothing to do with the robot right?

sergioCorral842 04-02-2014 00:29

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan Macdonald (Post 1337291)
That pile of broken ceiling tile has nothing to do with the robot right?

Robots*

Team 2016 04-02-2014 20:06

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Could this be used to pass or catch?:confused:

Joey1939 04-02-2014 21:15

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sergioCorral842 (Post 1337130)
I basically use the Timer class. It does not seem to be having any issues with that.

Could you please explain in greater detail how to implement this?

sergioCorral842 04-02-2014 22:13

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey1939 (Post 1337743)
Could you please explain in greater detail how to implement this?

Use the timer class to set the pistons to true for a certain amount of time then set them to false right after.

JohnFogarty 04-02-2014 22:31

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
The amount of inspiration this video has given me cannot be quantified.


What solenoid are you using? is there any special storage tank between the solenoid and the cylinder? Or is it just


Compressor ---> Pressure Sensor -----> Storage Air Tank ----> Regulator ----> Solinoid ----> Cylinder.

*Forgive me for my lack of pneumatic knowledge if that order is so wrong that I deserve to be flogged.

kuraikou 04-02-2014 22:53

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Super cool!!! I look forward to seeing you at the AZ regional.

In the videos your team posted on Facebook you have another piston that goes up and down as you fire, what is the point in this and how does it work?

falconmaster 04-02-2014 22:56

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1337789)
The amount of inspiration this video has given me cannot be quantified.


What solenoid are you using? is there any special storage tank between the solenoid and the cylinder? Or is it just


Compressor ---> Pressure Sensor -----> Storage Air Tank ----> Regulator ----> Solinoid ----> Cylinder.

*Forgive me for my lack of pneumatic knowledge if that order is so wrong that I deserve to be flogged.

Compressor, pressure sensor, primary storage tank, regulator, secondary storage tank, solenoid, cylinder

s_forbes 05-02-2014 00:56

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kuraikou (Post 1337805)
In the videos your team posted on Facebook you have another piston that goes up and down as you fire, what is the point in this and how does it work?

That additional piston gives us the ability to adjust the trajectory further. Just by varying the pulse to the main catapult cylinders, we are able to make a relatively lofty truss shot and a pretty hard/flat high goal shot. The geometry of the arm for those shots doesn't work for the in-front-of-the-1pt-goal high goal shot, so we added another degree of actuation.

We did a few quick tests today that make a self caught shot over the truss look feasible using these additional pistons; it will be pretty neat if we can pull that off in a match!

mithril865 06-02-2014 01:29

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
First let me say how impressive this design is. The flexibility is incredible! Can you please provide more details on how you implemented it including cylinder dimensions (bore & stroke), release, distance cylinders are attached from the pivot, pneumatic connections, are you using 2 tanks per cylinder? are you using separate solenoids for each cylinder? Our team tried to replicate your set up tonight and couldn't get anywhere close to the range you demonstrated.

Thanks...

waialua359 06-02-2014 03:19

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
Our team used a different mechanical approach to varying our shots with the same shooter mechanism.
After seeing this thread early yesterday, we have already tried with great success the software pulsing of the solenoids instead.

Thanks for sharing.

nuclearnerd 06-02-2014 14:56

Re: Team 842 Testing Shots
 
OK, we had similar size cylinders, similar sized catapult, and tanks directly connected to the cylinder ports (mechanical release - we didn't even get into large CV solenoid valves yet) and we could not make our shooter make long shots like yours. We clearly have some learning to do. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your system after build season!


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