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tcjinaz 03-02-2014 22:31

The SAM Thread
 
OK, I was excoriated for this suggestion in 2012, but was proven correct that it was possible and, apparently, reasonable. Can (and may) a robot interfere with a ball in flight by shooting a ball at it?

I'll give you the reality that there are only 10 seconds (generally) when more that two balls in play, so the strategic value of ack-ack is greatly reduced over Rebound Rumble. Is it worth interferrng?

Tim

Andrew Lawrence 03-02-2014 22:57

Re: The SAM Thread
 
Is it possible? Yes. Is it worth attempting? No.

cmrnpizzo14 04-02-2014 08:42

Re: The SAM Thread
 
Check with PFreivald and 1551, they might have an interesting take on this ;)

JamesCH95 04-02-2014 09:42

Re: The SAM Thread
 
Best-case its a net-sum-zero strategy, so if it fits into your game plan it might be useful.

I cannot figure out how it would be genuinely useful though.

Al Skierkiewicz 04-02-2014 09:45

Re: The SAM Thread
 
Dodgeball immediately jumped to mind.

Andrew Schreiber 04-02-2014 10:24

Re: The SAM Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 1337402)
Best-case its a net-sum-zero strategy, so if it fits into your game plan it might be useful.

I cannot figure out how it would be genuinely useful though.

Coming out ahead in auton and locking the score. Ranking suicide in quals but could be a useful strategy if you know you've got them in auton but they can cycle faster.

JamesCH95 04-02-2014 10:29

Re: The SAM Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1337420)
Coming out ahead in auton and locking the score. Ranking suicide in quals but could be a useful strategy if you know you've got them in auton but they can cycle faster.

I suppose so. I guess I was assuming that if you were consistently winning auton (i.e. reliable high-goal shooting) that you would always wind up with better cycle scores.

Do you really think trying to hit a ball out of the air with another ball would be better than a 2 or 3 robot defensive blockade?

Andrew Schreiber 04-02-2014 10:32

Re: The SAM Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 1337423)
I suppose so. I guess I was assuming that if you were consistently winning auton (i.e. reliable high-goal shooting) that you would always wind up with better cycle scores.

Do you really think trying to hit a ball out of the air with another ball would be better than a 2 or 3 robot defensive blockade?

Not at all. Hitting a quickly moving target is NOT a trivial problem in the least.

You did ask for a case when it would make sense, not a case in which I would do it. :P

JamesCH95 04-02-2014 10:46

Re: The SAM Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1337426)
Not at all. Hitting a quickly moving target is NOT a trivial problem in the least.

You did ask for a case when it would make sense, not a case in which I would do it. :P

Touche good sir!


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