Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

Wasn't tracking anyone at PNW, but I was getting a few (2-4) notifications from NECMP where I wasn't following any teams.

Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

I was at the PNW championship and it stopped updating for me after round 10. I kept going back and trying to update again every 20 minutes or so but it never downloaded new data. (I just tried it again now, a couple hours after the event closed for the day, and it did get the data.)

Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

Never noticed a hitch for me today at the PNW district championships. I was at the event, but following several teams there and I was reliably getting instant push notifications following matches and in-app updates whenever I refreshed. Awesome app for tracking multiple teams and checking schedule/standings throughout the event.

Pretty wacky OPR's in the PNW so far, 4 teams have OPR over 200, highest at 280. The highest two OPR's exceed any of their alliance match scores. I assume it's just a glitch from the small sample size though, will likely straighten itself out in a couple more rounds.

Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

OPR is never accurate at any event until each team has played at least 6-7 matches. It most definitely is a sample size issue.

I haven't had any problems today, my dad's isn't updating though. We both have a Samsung Galaxy, same carrier. It's strange...

Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

While I was at MSC, I'd try to update, it'd go for a short while, say "Update Successful," but wouldn't have actually updated (still had old teamlist). Wasn't a problem with cell service, because I was doing other things at the time as well. After I did this a couple dozen times, it eventually started working and continued to work the rest of the day. I want to say it working coincided with the start of matches, but I'm not sure.

Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

I was at the FTC East Super Regional Last weekend. And I think about 100 people downloaded the app after I showed it to them. You could always tell when a score notification came in cause of someone's reaction.

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I just refreshed the app, and I have rankings from the PNW Championship. Android 4.0.

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Thank you for the app!
Running all day in regionals

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Until the number of matches is >= number of teams, the OPR system of equations is underdetermined.

Consider the equation a + b = 3, there are an infinite number of solutions. The same thing occurs when there are less matches then teams. Since there are 6 teams per match, opr is underdetermined until everyone has 6 matches.

At the championship, it will take until the middle of Friday before OPR is overdetermined.

FRC Tracker won't calculate OPR until the solution is overdetermined. Users of FRC Spyder and any other live OPR updating tool should definitely take OPR with a huge grain of salt until the solution is overdetermined.

Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

Following up, since I was one of those for whom the update wasn't fetching data on Thursday: no problems updating from PNW championship on Friday.

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Hi, Mike,

If there are any interests, I can volunteer to work with the 610 programmers to port it to BlackBerry BB10 for the community. A little giveback to FIRST and the Canadian smartphone pioneer. BB10 can run many Android apps with a simple wrapper.

Billy.

Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

Isn't it half the number of teams? Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't each match have two equations, one for each alliance's score?

Is anyone having issues with Spyder on Newton? Not all teams are showing up. It was working earlier today.

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Yeah, me too. But the field isnt showing rankings either on matches. I think they had to reset everything and when a team plays now, they are being re-added into the rankings. Just give it a few more matches and everyone should be back.

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It's fixed now. They updated it during lunch. FMS wasn't updating properly.

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As a preemptive warning, FIRST's data feeds are broken and this is why FRC Spyder isn't updating. Someone at FIRST appears to be editing their result HTML pages using Microsoft Word (!) and this produces a different HTML structure than their normal pages. Since FIRST does not provide the data in a clean API format, we're forced to scrape the data from their result pages and parse it. When they publish data using Microsoft Word, Word changes the layout of the HTML which makes it incompatible with our data parsers.

Unfortunately we are extremely busy supporting the VEX Robotics World Championship and don't have time to tweak our data parsers to deal with the changes FIRST has made.

Maybe someday FIRST will get this right and provide the data in a way more suited for app consumption.

Re: FRC Spyder 2014?
 

I second the post above. It is very frustrating that FIRST doesn't provide better tools for these third party sites like The Blue Alliance and At The Control. Obviously they want these sites to exist!