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Travis Hoffman 10-02-2014 22:35

pic: Team 48 - Lock n' Load
 

Orion.DeYoe 10-02-2014 22:36

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That's impressive. What are you doing in terms of spring force? What's the weight of the ram? What's the starting gap between the ram and the ball (if any)?

cbale2000 10-02-2014 23:16

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It reminds me of a MK19 grenade launcher...


Travis Hoffman 10-02-2014 23:36

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Originally Posted by Orion.DeYoe (Post 1340989)
That's impressive. What are you doing in terms of spring force? What's the weight of the ram? What's the starting gap between the ram and the ball (if any)?

Currently, there are two www.centuryspring.com #81153 springs on there, providing about 50 lb. of force each in the low power setting, and 80 lb. of force each in the high power setting.

The high power shot is selected by extending the 2 3" stroke cylinders, which adds 3" of pre-load onto the springs.

The motor/gearbox pulls the springs back to firing position (roughly 6" of pullback). When the launcher fires, the majority of the stroke takes place with the ball in contact with the ram.

The ram is 1" round igus aluminum rod with a McMaster 3/8" wide, 20 DP, 14.5 PA rack gear affixed. The rod slides through two open-top igus linear bearing pillow blocks. I actually don't know how much the ram weighs. The overall claw/launcher combo projects to weigh around 35 lbs.

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Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1341016)
It reminds me of a MK19 grenade launcher...


I was kinda thinking a .30 or .50 cal machine gun, but I think I like yours better. :-)

Procolsaurus 11-02-2014 00:27

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Holy Perspective! It looks like its 4 feet tall :D

mschwab013 11-02-2014 00:27

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That is terrifyingly awesome. Great job as always!

Travis Hoffman 11-02-2014 00:37

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Originally Posted by Procolsaurus (Post 1341048)
Holy Perspective! It looks like its 4 feet tall :D

The main structural element is 4" x 4" x 1/8" wall aluminum, if that helps. :)

BBray_T1296 11-02-2014 00:52

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Fixed


bEdhEd 11-02-2014 00:59

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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1341051)
The main structural element is 4" x 4" x 1/8" wall aluminum, if that helps. :)

Our linear launcher (not actually a puncher, but similar) uses aluminum extrusion with those same dimensions as its main structure, and our winch gear system is integrated, so our aluminum box structure serves both as a gearbox and launcher track all in one piece. Since our launcher stores a ridiculous amount of energy, we now understand that these types of ball shooting mechanisms may just need that much structure!

DampRobot 11-02-2014 01:56

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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1341024)
Currently, there are two www.centuryspring.com #81153 springs on there, providing about 50 lb. of force each in the low power setting, and 80 lb. of force each in the high power setting.

The high power shot is selected by extending the 2 3" stroke cylinders, which adds 3" of pre-load onto the springs.

The motor/gearbox pulls the springs back to firing position (roughly 6" of pullback). When the launcher fires, the majority of the stroke takes place with the ball in contact with the ram.

Wow, that's surprisingly little force for such a great launch. We're hitting 220 pounds at full pullback in our shooter, and we're still not getting much distance as we want.

Any reason for the tiny little pusher plate? Or are you going to replace this with something else?

Travis Hoffman 11-02-2014 03:15

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Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1341068)
Wow, that's surprisingly little force for such a great launch. We're hitting 220 pounds at full pullback in our shooter, and we're still not getting much distance as we want.

We're pretty happy with the efficiency. I cannot imagine it is the only reason, but our rack and pinion cocking system completely disengages the cocking pinion from the rack on the plunger rod - the pinion has missing teeth by design - so there is no drag on the plunger rod from a winch when it fires forward.

The igus linear bearings and aluminum shaft are also (literally) quite slick.

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Any reason for the tiny little pusher plate? Or are you going to replace this with something else?
Honestly, the shape/size was kinda arbitrary - we just wanted something larger than the diameter of the 1" plunger rod to start. The end of the rod is threaded so we can put in larger-diameter endcaps if we want and examine the effect on distance (and more likely, shot consistency).

Wayne Doenges 11-02-2014 12:08

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Hi Travis

How far are you hitting the ball?

Orion.DeYoe 11-02-2014 12:19

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This looks like a really long shot but I'm assuming that the camera perspective affects it a bit. What is the maximum effective range of this launcher?

Travis Hoffman 11-02-2014 21:51

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Originally Posted by Wayne Doenges (Post 1341213)
Hi Travis

How far are you hitting the ball?

Our low power shot was hitting from about 16' tonight.

DampRobot 11-02-2014 22:36

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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1341556)
Our low power shot was hitting from about 16' tonight.

Is that shots from 16' into the goal, 16' to hit the ground, or something else?


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