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Animal Control 11-02-2014 16:08

pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
if you have motors outside the frame how do you have to hold the wires and how must the pneumatic pistons be attached?

Oblarg 11-02-2014 16:11

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
Could you please be a bit more specific? It's completely unclear what exactly you're asking.

Animal Control 11-02-2014 16:16

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
will have to send to you through you'r email. my computer will not let me put the picture up

Oblarg 11-02-2014 16:18

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
Upload it to imgur.com, copy-paste the image URL and use the [IMG] tags. Ensure that the link inside the BBCode ends with .jpg (i.e., that it's the image location and not just the imgur page).

Animal Control 11-02-2014 16:19

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
but the image is from my camera

Oblarg 11-02-2014 16:20

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
If you can put it in an email, you can put it on imgur.

Also, in the future, you should post this sort of thread in the technical discussion forum, not the general forum.

Animal Control 11-02-2014 16:20

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...0&disp=safe&zw

I think I got the arm hanging and the pneumatic

Alan Anderson 11-02-2014 16:27

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
While a picture is certainly likely to help us understand what you're asking, a few more words might be useful in the meantime.

What does "outside the frame" mean when you say it?

What is the function of the motors you are asking about?

To what are you trying to attach the pneumatic "pistons"? Do you mean pneumatic cylinders, or are you trying to refer specifically to the end of the moving rod?

Animal Control 11-02-2014 16:30

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
What does "outside the frame" mean when you say it?
Where the blocks are is where the bumpers will be

What is the function of the motors you are asking about?
The motor turn to pick up the ball

To what are you trying to attach the pneumatic "pistons"? Do you mean pneumatic cylinders, or are you trying to refer specifically to the end of the moving rod?
The pistons are used to pick up the arm with the ball and lower the arms to get the ball

Alan Anderson 11-02-2014 16:35

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
Um...yeah, go ahead and try to upload a picture somewhere we can see it. Your Gmail link won't work for anyone who isn't logged on to your Gmail account.

Animal Control 11-02-2014 16:42

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 

Oblarg 11-02-2014 16:48

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
I would be cautious about that motor placement, but for running the wires I'd recommend the usual judicious use of zipties.

For attaching the pistons, at the rod-end you'll probably do best to use a standard bimba rod-end clevis, and at the rear end you'll either want their pivot brackets or you'll want to push out the pin that comes standard (by means of a large bench vise - I've tried a two ton arbor press to no avail) and use a bolt.

Animal Control 11-02-2014 16:49

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
thank you

Alan Anderson 11-02-2014 16:53

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
I don't think there are any specific rules that require you to attach your wiring in any particular way. If that ball pickup assembly starts the match inside the frame perimeter, then you can do it pretty much however you see fit.

You'll want to make sure they don't pose an entanglement risk to other robots, and that they aren't prone to being pulled out or tugging on (and breaking) the motor's electrical terminals. It might even be a good idea to include some sort of guard around the motor itself to keep it from accidental damage.

I still don't understand what you want to know about mounting the pneumatic components.

mott 11-02-2014 16:57

Re: pneumatic cylinders and motors with wires
 
If I'm seeing this correctly, it appears this is a ball collector hanging outside the front frame perimeter (when deployed).

In addition to the high risk of your wires being caught and ripped off the machine, I'd venture to say your actual gear motor assembly might not last through more than a couple matches before getting destroyed in a side-impact collision with an aggressive defender.

I'd strongly suggest some additional protection for your mechanism and the attached wiring.


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