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archiver 24-06-2002 00:40

Re: Evenly distribution combined with a lottery
 
Posted by Ken Leung at 2/13/2001 6:30 PM EST


Student on team #192, Gunn Robotics Team, from Henry M. Gunn Senior High School.


In Reply to: Evenly distribution combined with a lottery
Posted by Andy Baker on 2/12/2001 11:24 AM EST:



It's going to be pretty exciting if this happens.

It doesn't matter if it takes a long time, I bet every team is willing to sit there and wait. I mean, after a whole day of practice and seeing how 100's of other robot works, it will be so much fun seeing what team you are up against.

It¡¦s also a great time for people to talk to each other before the competition starts. Usually, during competition people are too busy to really get around to talk to each other. So this will provide a chance to socialize a bit. The National Competition doesn't have to be only robotics competition, but a chance for people across the country to meet each other.

This will almost guarantee every team to be there. A good way to get a sense of how big the competition is, and has enough time for teams to think about the division that night.


archiver 24-06-2002 00:40

But what if...
 
Posted by Steve Prairie at 2/12/2001 4:13 PM EST


Student on team #173, RAGE, from Rockville High School and UTRC.


In Reply to: A proposal for dividing the teams...
Posted by Joe Johnson on 2/11/2001 10:09 PM EST:



: Back to the topic at hand, I think that FIRST should
: take all the teams that won regionals and randomly
: divide this group. Next they should take all the
: regional runners up and do the same, followed by the
: regional semi-finalists, and finally the teams that did
: not make it to the elimination rounds.

What if a team went to two (or more) regionals, and won them both?.. or won one and was a runner-up in another? That may get confusing.



archiver 24-06-2002 00:40

teams going to multiple regionals
 
Posted by Ken Leung at 2/13/2001 6:46 PM EST


Student on team #192, Gunn Robotics Team, from Henry M. Gunn Senior High School.


In Reply to: But what if...
Posted by Steve Prairie on 2/12/2001 4:13 PM EST:



Well, if a team went to two or more regionals and won them both, that will reduce the number of winning group. But it doesn't matter as much because the whole process is just trying to make sure each division have equal amount of different level of teams out there.

So even those multiple-regionals winning teams are occupying the winning group, there will still be lots of teams in runners up group as well as semi-finalists. We are talking about distributing the best of the best teams into the divisions so that each division will have a fairly equal quality. It's only a way to help random distribution of teams divide up the teams more evenly.

And the issue about teams being winner in a regional and runner-up in another, I think they deserve to be in the winning group simply because they won a regional.

In the event of teams not getting into elimination matches because of multiple-regional teams taking up their space, they will still be distributed evenly by a random process into each division, and provide a second chance to show themselves.





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