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Compressor gets hot and blows line
So when we enable the robot the compressor kicks on, the pressure builds in our high pressure tanks, gets to 65 psi, holds there for ~20 seconds, then the line coming out of the compressor blows out. The line and compressor are very hot when this happens. Any ideas?
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How much air storage to do have? And does the compressor have a fan on it? The VIAIR really needs one if it is going to be running for any extended period of time.
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Compressors create heat when they compress air. In normal usage the heat is dissipated and doesn't cause a problem. If however the compressor is on for a long period of time, like in practice, there can be enough heat generated to soften the hose and create failure.
In good practice to connect the pressure relief valve and pressure switch directly to the compressor with brass fittings. This helps isolate the hose from the heat. The more metal between the hose and the compressor the better. |
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How many tanks, of what size, are you trying to fill?
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We also added the medium-sized muffin fan from the KOP blowing across the compressor and fittings, which helps a lot. ![]() |
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We found that this happens as well. Mounting a 12V server fan pointed right at it keeps it as cool as a cucumber... or at least one that has been sitting on the counter. We had to run without the fan last night, and remembered just how hot it got.
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Does the tubing pull out of the compressor or does the line fail by producing a bubble and then blow out at the soft spot?
If it produces the bubble then the compressor is likely running continuous for several minutes (~10 or longer). It sounds like the high pressure relief valve is not calibrated. This is supplied uncalibrated and needs to be adjusted by the team to release at 125 psi. A compressor that runs for an extended period will blow out the line. It does this by heating the tubing to a temperature where it fails under pressure. To calibrate, loosen the locking ring on the valve, it is the lower hex hardware on the valve. Then power the robot and enable, short the pressure switch which should run the compressor continuously. With an accurate pressure gauge on the high pressure side, watch for the pressure to rise to 125 psi and listen and feel for air escaping the top of the valve. If it does not, turn the top counter clockwise until air is vented from the valve. If air is released at a lower pressure, then turn the top clockwise until 125 psi is reached when it vents. Tighten the locking ring without letting the top of the valve rotate. Remove the short across the pressure switch and see if the compressor shuts off when the pressure reaches ~120 psi. If it simply pulls out of the fitting, one of two things are occurring. Your gauge is not accurate and you are exceeding 150 psi and failing at the fitting. Or the fitting could be bad and not securing the tubing. Once inserted you should not be able to pull out the tubing without pressing the release ring first. |
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On the regulator there is an arrow on one of the ports. The high pressure tubing must go into the port that is at the tail end of the arrow, and only that port. The other three ports are kept at working pressure ~60psi. |
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I suspect you've mis-plumbed something or have a leak somewhere, causing the compressor to be on much longer then expected. |
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Mark I think has the solution. I did not consider the regulator in backward. It is designed to vent to atmosphere any excess pressure on the output port.
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We are pressurizing 3 of the 41in^3 tanks.
The setup VI Compressor-->Tanks (with pressure switch, and pressure gauge installed on the tanks -->Regulator (60 psi) ----Splits to two paths Path A: ---> 30 psi regulator -->solenoids Path B: ----> Solenoids |
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Let me check the regulators, and get back to you.
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The high pressure side gets to 65 psi. The compressor is on a minute or so, and gets to 65 psi, stays there, and half a min later or so blows the line. ~120 in^3 of air stored on te high side. No tanks after the main regulator. |
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Like many have said, we always use lots of brass fittings at the beginning of the line from the compressor and put the required fittings on there as well, this helps because the brass dissipates the heat before it reaches the tubing.
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Reverse the polarity to the compressor?
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