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Jscout11 18-02-2014 19:10

Team 11 - Robot Reveal 2014
 
Reveal Video

Team 11 proudly presents our 2014 robot: Tempest



Robot Specs:
-Eight Wheel Drive with 4" by 2" Treaded Colsons
-West Coast Chassis
-6 CIMS 2-Speed (15.5fps/6fps)
-Sorbothane Dual-Roller Intake
-Two-Position Variable Shot:
-Long distance 9-18ft shot
-Lay up/Truss shot
-Designed to catch easily
-Two-Ball Autonomous

Tempest will be competing at Mt. Olive, Springside-Chestnut Hill, and Hawaii

BrendanB 18-02-2014 19:15

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Nice robot 11! Lovin all the black and yellow! :)

RohitD 18-02-2014 19:19

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That powder coating. :-) I really like this robot!

xXhunter50Xx 18-02-2014 20:05

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That's a really cool design, also how's its accuracy

Jscout11 18-02-2014 20:40

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Originally Posted by xXhunter50Xx (Post 1345582)
That's a really cool design, also how's its accuracy

We're sinking every shot in the scoring zone except for right in the goalie zone.

maxweberh 18-02-2014 20:48

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Can't wait to play with you guys again at SCHA. :)

Link07 18-02-2014 21:08

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Looks great! Looking forward to seeing it in action at SCH

DonRotolo 18-02-2014 21:13

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Is it just me, or would a skull-shaped camera look way too cool?

waialua359 18-02-2014 21:33

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1345623)
Is it just me, or would a skull-shaped camera look way too cool?

That thought crossed my mind as well!

Great looking robot!:)

Akash Rastogi 18-02-2014 21:42

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1345623)
Is it just me, or would a skull-shaped camera look way too cool?

Haha, maybe the kids can 3D print a skull shaped case for the camera :)

LaScooter 18-02-2014 21:51

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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1345647)
Haha, maybe the kids can 3D print a skull shaped case for the camera :)

Yeah, with the 3D printer back up and running, we will work on it as soon as possible. ;)

cadandcookies 18-02-2014 22:51

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Love it. Epic music too!

wmarshall11 18-02-2014 23:11

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You don't get robot audio in the video, but the sound of the catapult winding up is absolutely terrifying.

jblay 18-02-2014 23:38

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So awesome, looks like 11 is in for another great year after their awesome 2013 campaign.

I'm trying to figure out how you get variability in your shot, care to share?

LaScooter 18-02-2014 23:56

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Originally Posted by jblay (Post 1345752)
So awesome, looks like 11 is in for another great year after their awesome 2013 campaign.

I'm trying to figure out how you get variability in your shot, care to share?

We have a hard stop mechanism actuated by pistons that stops the arm before reaching its full speed.
At 1:45, you can see the white pieces near the pivot axle at action.

Jscout11 19-02-2014 00:20

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Originally Posted by LaScooter (Post 1345771)
We have hard stop mechanism actuated by pistons that stops the arm before reaching its full speed.
At 1:45, you can see the white pieces near the pivot axle at action.

More like 1:38. That allows us to make the truss lob and layup shots shown right after the shift.

cglrcng 19-02-2014 00:51

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Great Job!....But, something tells me that "Tempest" will not fit in a teapot.

Good Luck!

Link07 19-02-2014 06:45

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I was re-watching the video and only now just noticed the other robot cameo in the video.

A sneak peek of Beta? :)

Jscout11 19-02-2014 07:25

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Originally Posted by Link07 (Post 1345874)
I was re-watching the video and only now just noticed the other robot cameo in the video.

A sneak peek of Beta? :)

Think of it as an unofficial, not so intentional teaser ;)

Robotmmm 19-02-2014 09:13

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Originally Posted by cadandcookies (Post 1345720)
Love it. Epic music too!

I think the song is awesome as well. Just realized that the name of the song is "Black Sun". Very clever MORT, very clever indeed.

Can't wait to see this beast compete in person!

Jscout11 19-02-2014 09:29

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Originally Posted by Robotmmm (Post 1345928)
I think the song is awesome as well. Just realized that the name of the song is "Black Sun". Very clever MORT, very clever indeed!

I'd love to say it was planned that way...

DELurker 19-02-2014 10:11

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1345623)
Is it just me, or would a skull-shaped camera look way too cool?

I actually had to go back and check. I had thought it was skull-shaped.

Jscout11 19-02-2014 12:57

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1345623)
Is it just me, or would a skull-shaped camera look way too cool?

Well to be fair our logo IS a pirate.

Also, after watching some of the other reveals, I really wish we had the time to stick on LED's for the video :rolleyes:

Ben Martin 19-02-2014 13:48

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Good job, guys. Looks really solid.
Looking forward to playing with you at Chestnut Hill

EricDrost 19-02-2014 13:49

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Here's a sneak peak of the tread pattern we're using.


Link07 19-02-2014 14:52

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Originally Posted by EricDrost (Post 1346179)
Here's a sneak peak of the tread pattern we're using.

How much extra traction do you get from that as compared to normal colsons?

L1dor 19-02-2014 15:04

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it's look nice !

camtunkpa 19-02-2014 15:09

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Looking good Mort! Can't wait for Mount Olive to see this machine live.

Lil' Lavery 19-02-2014 15:36

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Originally Posted by EricDrost (Post 1346179)
Here's a sneak peak of the tread pattern we're using.


What machining process did you use to cut those? Did you freeze the wheels first? What kind of performance gains have you seen from that? Did you try any other tread patterns?

LaScooter 19-02-2014 15:54

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Originally Posted by Link07 (Post 1346268)
How much extra traction do you get from that as compared to normal colsons?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1346309)
What machining process did you use to cut those? Did you freeze the wheels first? What kind of performance gains have you seen from that? Did you try any other tread patterns?

Link07 - We don't have exact numbers, but the traction was much higher than normal colsons. If you are planning on getting into pushing matches, I would recommend them. ;)

Lil' Lavery - We simply took them to a band saw and put cuts in them. Much higher traction gained from simple 5 minutes of work. We are planning on trying out different patterns, but the current design should be significantly better than normal colsons. :D

Jscout11 19-02-2014 16:28

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Originally Posted by LaScooter (Post 1346321)
Link07 - We don't have exact numbers, but the traction was much higher than normal colsons. If you are planning on getting into pushing matches, I would recommend them. ;)

We were able to push Beta around in practice a little bit at least :D

EricDrost 19-02-2014 17:00

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1346309)
What kind of performance gains have you seen from that? Did you try any other tread patterns?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaScooter (Post 1346321)
We are planning on trying out different patterns, but the current design should be significantly better than normal colsons. :D

Sean,

I intend to publish a quantitative analysis on wheel tread eventually. But for now we've found that comparatively: straight cut > diamond cut > uncut when it comes to simulated coefficient of friction in the forward direction.

Because the cut is perpendicular to the direction of motion, the forward component receives 100% of the vector's magnitude unlike the angled cuts in the diamond pattern.

The W set of VexPro wheels follow the same logic.

DonRotolo 19-02-2014 17:21

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Originally Posted by EricDrost (Post 1346371)
Because the cut is perpendicular to the direction of motion, the forward component receives 100% of the vector's magnitude unlike the angled cuts in the diamond pattern.

Eric, don't forget to consider the traction from when the tread material bends, when the cuts are sufficiently close to each other. A diamond pattern has more cuts and thus some thinner profiles. I can't say if it is significant or not, but rubber car tires use angled siping just so they can get thinner profiles compared to perpendicular siping.

EricDrost 19-02-2014 17:32

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1346388)
Eric, don't forget to consider the traction from when the tread material bends, when the cuts are sufficiently close to each other. A diamond pattern has more cuts and thus some thinner profiles. I can't say if it is significant or not, but rubber car tires use angled siping just so they can get thinner profiles compared to perpendicular siping.

I absolutely agree that my explanation was an oversimplification. We intend to do MUCH more comprehensive testing. But with the data points we have so far, the straight cuts are the best performing wheels we've tried.

Ryan Dognaux 20-02-2014 11:00

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Great looking robot guys. Will surely be a contender in MAR this season!

sportzkrazzy 20-02-2014 13:33

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Loving the bot this year. Should be a top contender where ever it goes. Looks like the in-house powder coating payed off because she is gorgeous. :)

Robotmmm 20-02-2014 14:22

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Originally Posted by Jscout11 (Post 1345937)
I'd love to say it was planned that way...

Not planned? So the song is "Black Sun" and the robot is black and yellow(sun) and this is totally coincidental? :yikes: Guess it was meant to be!

Jscout11 20-02-2014 15:53

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Originally Posted by Robotmmm (Post 1346965)
Not planned? So the song is "Black Sun" and the robot is black and yellow(sun) and this is totally coincidental? :yikes: Guess it was meant to be!

After finding the song though I almost wanted to change the name of the robot :rolleyes:

Chris is me 20-02-2014 16:26

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I love it. A simple design that capitalizes on 11's strengths - strategy and execution. Paint job is beautiful too. I expect success similar to 2013 with this thing.

Oh, and tell Drost that I hate the music :P

EricDrost 20-02-2014 16:53

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1347061)
Oh, and tell Drost that I hate the music :P

Because it reminds you of your 2011 arm? :rolleyes:

Gregor 20-02-2014 23:39

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Originally Posted by EricDrost (Post 1347076)
Because it reminds you of your 2011 arm? :rolleyes:


Cash4587 21-02-2014 09:08

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How did you guys make that intake roller? It looks like some sort of rubber tube?

EricDrost 21-02-2014 10:09

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Originally Posted by Cash4587 (Post 1347418)
How did you guys make that intake roller? It looks like some sort of rubber tube?

Polycarbonate round tube with sorbothane epoxied on. It's incredibly grippy but requires wiping down before every match or two - it gets dust/dirt on it and becomes more slick.

Overall, we're very happy with it.


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