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ajlapp 07-07-2014 10:23

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Until it's posted on our website...here is a direct link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/36m8hvaxot...m_06302014.stp

There are some details missing, but this is pretty complete. Enjoy.

JohnFogarty 07-07-2014 11:24

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajlapp (Post 1392359)
Until it's posted on our website...here is a direct link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/36m8hvaxot...m_06302014.stp

There are some details missing, but this is pretty complete. Enjoy.

you just made me a very happy person!

Max Boord 07-07-2014 16:52

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajlapp (Post 1392359)
Until it's posted on our website...here is a direct link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/36m8hvaxot...m_06302014.stp

There are some details missing, but this is pretty complete. Enjoy.

Well, there goes the rest of my week.

rnewendyke 07-07-2014 17:20

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Just out of curiosity how much use did the servo brakes see in competition?

JohnFogarty 08-07-2014 10:16

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
The brake and overall gearbox surprised me as well. Was the 5:1 reduction the final reduction..for real?

Aren Siekmeier 08-07-2014 11:09

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1392457)
The brake and overall gearbox surprised me as well. Was the 5:1 reduction the final reduction..for real?

That's pretty reasonable for a single speed on wheels that size.

JohnFogarty 08-07-2014 11:58

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by compwiztobe (Post 1392462)
That's pretty reasonable for a single speed on wheels that size.

I didn't measure the wheel diameter, and I don't have my CAD workstation in front of me. What was it? Weren't they 4in wheels? That kind of reduction would pull some serious amps if they ever met interference on the field.

Aren Siekmeier 08-07-2014 12:12

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1392464)
I didn't measure the wheel diameter, and I don't have my CAD workstation in front of me. What was it? Weren't they 4in wheels? That kind of reduction would pull some serious amps if they ever met interference on the field.

Only if they tried to power through the interference. If speed matters, 5:1 with 3.5-4" wheels is pretty alright, and the acceleration and speed (14-18 ft/s depending on losses, 90% of top speed in just under half a second) are really nice. Breakers are at risk if you sustain less than half free speed at full voltage, but acceleration is quick enough that this only happens if you plow into things. So just don't do that.

I don't have Windows up, so I'm not sure of the exact wheel diameter (or the gear ratio) either, but assuming they used small pinions (11 or 12) and the gear is close to the size of the wheel (it is, from my brief glances before), a single gear stage is certainly fine for the drive, if you're not worried about applying lots of force at low speeds, and instead want to get places. Their omnis helped with this I'm sure.

Edit: For reference, we ran 5.1:1 on 4" wheels for our high gear this year. We only needed low gear when we thought we'd be pushing people, but we honestly would have been better off going around. The high gear had really nice response with 6 CIMs for acceleration. I sort of wish it had been faster, but you have to be careful with the longer acceleration time when you do that.

Jared 08-07-2014 15:27

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
I'm having a hard time opening the file, but did they just press the bearings into the frame rail with no bearing blocks?

Also, did they run chain in the frame again?

Bryce Paputa 08-07-2014 16:02

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared (Post 1392484)
I'm having a hard time opening the file, but did they just press the bearings into the frame rail with no bearing blocks?

Also, did they run chain in the frame again?

Yes to both of those (as far as I can tell). Are you using inventor? I had to delete the compressor from the electronics board in order to get it to view nicely.

Jared 08-07-2014 16:57

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryce Paputa (Post 1392487)
Yes to both of those (as far as I can tell). Are you using inventor? I had to delete the compressor from the electronics board in order to get it to view nicely.

Thanks.

I'm using inventor on a laptop that doesn't have graphics drivers that play well with inventor. Solidworks got its install corrupted during an update. After deleting the compressor, it works more.

ajlapp 08-07-2014 20:03

Re: The Robonauts 118 - 2014 Video
 
Quote:

I'm having a hard time opening the file, but did they just press the bearings into the frame rail with no bearing blocks?

Also, did they run chain in the frame again?
The frame is a customized version of the SimpleTube Chassis seen here.

The bearings are a slip fit into the rail. We run a fixed center distance, no tensioners.


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