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I-DOG 20-02-2014 14:06

2014 Alamo Regional
 
So the Alamo regional is a week away so I figure we should start the 2014 Alamo thread. The regional looks stacked with excellent teams this year. I can't wait to see all of you there.

Here's a list of the teams currently attending

1. 57
2. 118
3. 148
4. 190
5. 231
6. 422
7. 441
8. 457
9. 499
10. 624
11. 653
12. 704
13. 1255
14. 1642
15. 2158
16. 2190
17. 2386
18. 2468
19. 2721
20. 2789
21. 2805
22. 2833
23. 2881
24. 2936
25. 2952
26. 2966
27. 2969
28. 2982
29. 2985
30. 3008
31. 3029
32. 3035
33. 3037
34. 3080
35. 3103
36. 3240
37. 3305
38. 3320
39. 3335
40. 3337
41. 3345
42. 3366
43. 3481
44. 3561
45. 3614
46. 3679
47. 3700
48. 3743
49. 3802
50. 3999
51. 4063
52. 4219
53. 4332
54. 4378
55. 4412
56. 4597
57. 4610
58. 4670
59. 4696
60. 4747
61. 4981
62. 5052
63. 5103
64. 5241

MysterE 21-02-2014 00:49

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
This is going to be our first trip to Alamo...and our first time in a week one regional. Any suggestions? :]

JohnSchneider 21-02-2014 02:56

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MysterE (Post 1347360)
This is going to be our first trip to Alamo...and our first time in a week one regional. Any suggestions? :]

Take the time to walk a block over an see the Alamo...

Its sort of easy to miss though :rolleyes:

Xavbro 21-02-2014 03:12

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MysterE (Post 1347360)
This is going to be our first trip to Alamo...and our first time in a week one regional. Any suggestions? :]

I went to a week one regional last year against majority of these teams (Lone Star) and the best advice I gave my team was to not be intimated. This is the first interaction with the competition robot since bag day for everyone. So everyone is going to be working out kinks and its a matter of who can get a working robot and come up with a winning strategy the fastest.

Also go site seeing in San Antonio. There's a lot of attractions there that are awesome. It's a great city and you can learn a lot about Texas history and culture there.

Koko Ed 21-02-2014 04:48

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
I'm heading down to San Antonio today and hang out by the Riverwalk for a few days til I help with field setup and load in on Wednesday.
It's gonna be like 82 on Sunday. I probably won't know what to do with myself.

ksafin 21-02-2014 05:14

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
It'll be very interesting.. We're an FL Team but we'll be in San Antonio during The FRC Alamo Regional for the FTC Southern Super Regional - to be held just 20 feet away from the FRC pits!

It'll be great to see some Texas FRC teams - we've already listed a dozen teams who we need to stalk to no end while we're in San Antonio ;)

safiq10 21-02-2014 09:55

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1347374)
I'm heading down to San Antonio today and hang out by the Riverwalk for a few days til I help with field setup and load in on Wednesday.
It's gonna be like 82 on Sunday. I probably won't know what to do with myself.

Wait Koko Ed is going to the Alamo Regional???? Must get picture and autograph!

Davis Racing 21-02-2014 14:27

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Odds are that Team 4063 will be passing out bunny ears. Green hair with pink bunny ears, what a look!

Abhishek R 21-02-2014 14:59

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Racing (Post 1347624)
Odds are that Team 4063 will be passing out bunny ears. Green hair with pink bunny ears, what a look!

People always seem to give us weird looks when we walk down the streets.

cad321 21-02-2014 15:57

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
2386 is coming down from canada this year for the Alamo regional and it looks like were gonna have lots of fun. The hospitality we have gotten thus far from teams down in texas has been great so far and it will be nice to see some warmer weather for a change ;) looking like some great competition and we cant wait!

Francis-134 23-02-2014 01:12

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Team 190 is looking forward to making the trip down!

I-DOG 24-02-2014 13:21

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Down below are links to either a photo or a video of a team currently attending Alamo. Hopefully, these videos and photos will give you all a relative idea of what to expect from Alamo. If you can find any more team photos or video message me and I'll expand the list. Have fun scouting.

118
148
624
704
1255
2386
2468
2881
2936
3008
3103
3335
3337
4063

fermat 25-02-2014 22:22

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Team 2833 is very excited in participating in our first week 1 competition!

The_ShamWOW88 28-02-2014 09:45

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Anybody know if they're going to fix the webcast on Blue Alliance, I select Alamo and I get the Central Illinois Regional, anyone having the same problem?

jsasaki 28-02-2014 10:08

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The_ShamWOW88 (Post 1350861)
Anybody know if they're going to fix the webcast on Blue Alliance, I select Alamo and I get the Central Illinois Regional, anyone having the same problem?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/south-...c-championship

Jay O'Donnell 28-02-2014 17:59

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Just saw the schedule for this and match 90 should be a lot of fun. 118, 624, 2468 all together on the same side.

MattC9 28-02-2014 18:10

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1351113)
Just saw the schedule for this and match 90 should be a lot of fun. 118, 624, 2468 all together on the same side.

Watch 66 coming up 118 and 148 opposite alliances.

juchong 28-02-2014 18:49

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MattC9 (Post 1351116)
Watch 66 coming up 118 and 148 opposite alliances.

That was.... disappointing.

Jaxom 28-02-2014 19:40

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Is Spyder messed up, or are the assist and total scores really low? It shows Alamo at 83 average winning score and 150 as the high assist score. Central Illinois has 120 & 430, respectively. You guys playing ferocious defense or is something else going on?

eddie12390 28-02-2014 20:27

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1351147)
Is Spyder messed up, or are the assist and total scores really low? It shows Alamo at 83 average winning score and 150 as the high assist score. Central Illinois has 120 & 430, respectively. You guys playing ferocious defense or is something else going on?

Although I can't comment on specifics as I wasn't there, it seemed like there were a lot of weird things going on from the referee/scorekeeping side of things. There were times where it seemed like robots were waiting 30 seconds after scoring a ball for their pedestal to be lit up for the next cycle to begin.

Abhishek R 28-02-2014 20:50

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie12390 (Post 1351161)
Although I can't comment on specifics as I wasn't there, it seemed like there were a lot of weird things going on from the referee/scorekeeping side of things. There were times where it seemed like robots were waiting 30 seconds after scoring a ball for their pedestal to be lit up for the next cycle to begin.

I haven't been watching any other regionals since I've been busy with matches, but we are waiting till the ball goes fully through the goal (often they hit the inside bar and bounce up and down till the ball bounces back into the field again) to light up the pedestal.

EDIT: By "we" I mean human players.

wt200999 28-02-2014 21:19

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Based on the FMS twitter, we have seen that:

A total of 72 qualification matches were played.

The average score by each alliance is 56.6 split by
  • Autonomous: 30.4%
  • Teleop 37.4%
  • Fouls 32.2%

Additionally the percent of matches, in which fouls changed the outcome was 15.27%, 8 matches favoring blue, and 3 matches favoring red. This was calculated by looking at who won the matches before and after fouls, and noting the difference.

safiq10 28-02-2014 22:10

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Hey does anyone know where we could find interviews that were taken in the social media lounge/Station? Our FTC/FRC team member had an interview and we are looking for the interview since we have a huge event tomorrow morning. If anyone knows where it is that be great!

tim-tim 28-02-2014 22:20

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abhishek R (Post 1351179)
I haven't been watching any regionals since I've been busy with matches, but we are waiting till the ball goes fully through the goal (often they hit the inside bar and bounce up and down till the ball bounces back into the field again) to light up the pedestal.

Please define who "we" is in your response.

The rules say once the ball is completely through the plane, the ball is scored. If the ball goes completely through the plane of the goal why is "we" waiting to light the pedestal? There is nothing in the rule book that states the pedestal should not be lit until the ball is "known to not re-enter the field". The current implementation seems a far from the intent of the rule.

Either way, FIRST needs to update the field (similar to 2012's deflectors under the bridge) to vastly reduce the event of a ball completely crossing the plane of the goal and then re-entering field of play.

Caleb Sykes 28-02-2014 22:27

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tim-tim (Post 1351196)
The rules say once the ball is completely through the plane, the ball is scored.

Notice that there are 2 clauses to this statement:

Quote:

A BALL is considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE’S GOAL if

a ROBOT causes one (1) of their ALLIANCE’S BALLS to cross completely and remain completely through the opening(s) of one (1) of their ALLIANCE’S GOALS...
The refs are doing the correct thing right now by waiting until the ball will not bounce back. That doesn't mean any of us like it (I certainly don't) but the blame for situations like these should not go to the refs.

tim-tim 28-02-2014 22:35

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
I stand corrected.

I'm not sure how I looked over that before posting. So when a ball gets stuck in the rails (I saw it happen on webcasts a few times), the ball being scored or not depends on which way it rolls when the volunteers free the ball? Yes, this a very frustrating catch to the rule. I guess FIRST should put these types of things in their "cheapman's drawings" for the goals as well. They seem to be making quite a difference.

A solution should be developed to help avoid these circumstances.

Ekcrbe 28-02-2014 23:26

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inkling16 (Post 1351200)
Notice that there are 2 clauses to this statement:



The refs are doing the correct thing right now by waiting until the ball will not bounce back. That doesn't mean any of us like it (I certainly don't) but the blame for situations like these should not go to the refs.

The description I'm seeing from some people here on CD is that there is a significant gap (15-30 seconds in some cases) between the ball being scored and the pedestal being lit. Whether the pedestal should light up as the ball passes through the goal or when it is apparent it will not return to play doesn't sound like the issue. It seems, rather, that for some reason there is a significant delay beyond that occasionally. I haven't noticed any instances of it myself, but I have only been keeping one eye on a computer screen when I can during school to see some matches, so I could have missed it.

Caleb Sykes 28-02-2014 23:57

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
I didn't really phrase that second statement well. What I meant was that none of us like that the ball can bounce back from the inside of the goal after being scored.

As for the rest of my post, I was speaking in response to tim-tim.

Mr. Tatorscout 02-03-2014 21:38

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Anybody got the scoop on what happened in the Semifinal with the #3 alliance?
3103 died irreparably and a replacement came out but something happened with 190 as well. I heard some strange stories from frustrated alliance members about why they didn't come back onto the field. Probably just a misunderstanding.

PayneTrain 02-03-2014 21:48

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Tatorscout (Post 1352254)
Anybody got the scoop on what happened in the Semifinal with the #3 alliance?
3103 died irreparably and a replacement came out but something happened with 190 as well. I heard some strange stories from frustrated alliance members about why they didn't come back onto the field. Probably just a misunderstanding.

I'm sure 190 was the frustrated alliance member. I think their drive blew up twice over the weekend.

itsjustmrb 03-03-2014 14:51

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Team 4063, TRikzR4kiDz, would like to thank everyone for another memorable regional event. Our robot did not perform to our expectations, but I am very proud of the work our kids put in to make our trip more successful for ourselves and others.

Thanks Again,

Mr. B.

Danny Diaz 03-03-2014 15:09

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Tatorscout (Post 1352254)
Anybody got the scoop on what happened in the Semifinal with the #3 alliance?
3103 died irreparably and a replacement came out but something happened with 190 as well. I heard some strange stories from frustrated alliance members about why they didn't come back onto the field. Probably just a misunderstanding.

Yup, there were a lot of incorrect stories going around - as ScoreKeeper I think I heard 3 different versions floating about. Here's the final "accepted" version of events:

(1) 3103 shredded their drivetrain, and so they called for a backup robot and 5052 was on standby to take their place.
(2) 190 then realized their robot was beyond repair as well (also due to a shredded drivetrain), and could not come in for another match.
(3) Their remaining partner, 3335, wanted to throw in the towel but they Graciously agreed to take the field with 5052 and not go down without a fight.
(4) And fight they did.

-Danny

Abhishek R 03-03-2014 17:51

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Does anyone have a recording of the full livestream?

Coach Norm 03-03-2014 18:14

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
Week one is over and many of us are off preparing for our next event.

Team 2468 appreciates 148 and 2789 accepting our invitation to join us in eliminations. It was a blast working with these two teams. We came up short in the end but we gave it our best shot. The attention to detail that 148 demonstrated not only to their robot but to 2789 and us was amazing. It is no wonder why they continue to be nothing short of World Class each year. 2789 continues to carry on their tradition of the defensive stopper but this year as a fullback as well. Best of luck to both of you throughout the rest of year.


Team Appreciate would like to extend congratulations to:

2158 AuTIN Cans for Engineering Inspiration - they were our mentor team back in 2008 and still continue to support many teams in the area, host events and reach out in many other ways than just FRC.

624 - Chairman's Winner - If ever I was jealous of a school or team, it is Cryptonite and their new facilities. They have worked extremely hard not only to build their FRC program but also with the school district to promote STEM within their district.
For more information, check out this post here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ght=cryptonite

5052 - Cedar Park Robolobos - Rookie All Stars. It was a pleasure to work with this team throughout the season starting back as early as September. Gabe has lead these guys throughout the season and established an excellent foundation for the future.

624, 118 and 3008 on the Regional Championship win and Championships qualifications. The matches were physical battles with strategies changing throughout each match. Game resets and delays were tough to deal with during the matches but the interactions between the teams off the field was great.

4063 was everywhere with their bunny ears and pink hardhats. They received the Gracious Professionalism award. From what I understand, not only did they have the most submissions for this award from other teams but they had more submissions than all the other teams combined at the tournament. This is three in a row for them carrying over from last year. What a tradition to carry on!!!

Thanks to all the volunteers, judges and referees at the Alamo Regional. The facilities were great and the layout was very good although some room my help around the entrance in and out of the field.

lanna.stars 03-03-2014 19:33

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
On behalf of Team 2386, we would like to thank Patrick and Jessica for organizing a great regional! The hospitality of the teams down in Texas was great.

We would also like to extend a special thanks to Team 457 for helping us organize a few tours of the Toyota Plant and Boeing. We really appreciated the support from this team and it eased the travel anxieties of who were were going to borrow tools from etc as we were coming from the Great White North.

Although we did not come away with any hardware, we were honoured that Teams 3337 and 2158 selected us to be with them in Alliance #7.

We are eager to get back in the game at the end of March on home turf at the North Bay Regional. Hopefully we won't knock anyone over again... (Sorry again Robonauts!)

Good luck to those competing in the coming weeks! Hopefully we have learned from Week 1 of what to expect... :)

2789_B_Garcia 03-03-2014 23:36

Re: 2014 Alamo Regional
 
On behalf of 2789, I would like to first and foremost thank our alliance partners, teams 2468 and 148. Words can't describe how excited we were to work with both of your teams again in eliminations matches. Norm, good luck to you and Team Appreciate for the rest of the season, we will definitely miss having you as our pit neighbors, and we hope to help the Robowranglers make another run for the gold in Dallas in a couple of weeks!

I would also like to thank our great friends on 4063. I've never seen another team truly embody the spirit of Gracious Professionalism as well as this team. From helping so many teams prior to as well as at the event, to collaborating with us on scouting and also having team members serve as volunteers at the event, the bunnies were everywhere doing everything they could to make this event the best it could be for all involved. It's no surprise that your team earned the 3-Peat on the GP award at Alamo. Looking forward to seeing y'all again at Dallas!

Congratulations are also definitely in order for the winning alliance, glad to see 3008 took some hardware back home on their long journey, and it goes without saying that our team has the highest respect for both teams 624 and 118. Norm mentioned earlier that our finals matches were physical, and I'm not sure if anyone else knows this, but we broke a weld on our frame during the first match and the Robowranglers helped us patch it back up with a few rivets for the second match!

We would also like to thank the volunteers & event staff for all of the hard work put in to make this event happen. Thank you!


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