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HerbertTreff 20-02-2014 17:21

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nxtmonkeys 20-02-2014 17:22

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Looks like a rat came in and made a nest in the wiring. Does it work? if it does, then the wiring doesn't matter much.

NWChen 20-02-2014 17:25

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Originally Posted by nxtmonkeys (Post 1347093)
Does it work? if it does, then the wiring doesn't matter much.

Until you have to fix something.

nxtmonkeys 20-02-2014 17:26

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And therein lies the problem.

XaulZan11 20-02-2014 17:27

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Originally Posted by nxtmonkeys (Post 1347093)
Does it work? if it does, then the wiring doesn't matter much.

I understand the picture is of a practice bot, but if a team showed up to the competition with that wiring, they would quickly drop a few spots on my picklist even if it worked in every match.

RamZ 20-02-2014 17:28

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I don't get it... is there something wrong with this..?

nxtmonkeys 20-02-2014 17:33

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Originally Posted by RamZ (Post 1347100)
I don't get it... is there something wrong with this..?

Well... let's say that something isn't working. Then, you have to follow the wire all of the way through that jumble to get to the port. It would be severely annoying.

barn34 20-02-2014 17:35

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1347099)
I understand the picture is of a practice bot, but if a team showed up to the competition with that wiring, they would quickly drop a few spots on my picklist even if it worked in every match.

not only that, but would they even get through inspection with that rat nest?

Mark McLeod 20-02-2014 17:38

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That robot looks so unloved. :(

Alan Anderson 20-02-2014 17:46

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I think our practice robot's wiring is better than the wiring on the 'bot we bagged. Part of that is because the Digital Sidecar had to be swapped out a couple of weeks ago, and all the connections going to it got nicely labeled to make the swap easier.

SenorZ 20-02-2014 18:01

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Looks like our wiring on Sunday at scrimmage... before 8 hours of OCD rewiring Monday and Tuesday.

Joel Glidden 20-02-2014 18:12

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"Give them the third best to go on with; the second best comes too late, the best never comes." ~Robert Watson-Watt

Perfect is the enemy of good enough.

Rynocorn 20-02-2014 19:09

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Originally Posted by barn34 (Post 1347108)
not only that, but would they even get through inspection with that rat nest?

From past experience I can say that you can make it through inspection with the wires looking like that- even though I am ashamed and sad to admit it

Kevin Selavko 20-02-2014 19:20

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Originally Posted by SenorZ (Post 1347125)
Looks like our wiring on Sunday at scrimmage... before 8 hours of OCD rewiring Monday and Tuesday.

Ours wasn't quite as bad, but we did the same thing after one of the robots at our scrimmage impaled us :ahh:. Programming wasn't happy about the down time though :rolleyes:

eddie12390 21-02-2014 08:45

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Originally Posted by Kevin Selavko (Post 1347160)
Ours wasn't quite as bad, but we did the same thing after one of the robots at our scrimmage impaled us :ahh:. Programming wasn't happy about the down time though :rolleyes:

It's my job to whine about electrical issues.

JamesCH95 21-02-2014 09:09

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There are a lot of issues with wiring like this, aside from how horrendous it appears.

-Loose wires will stress their terminations as the wires move/vibrate/shift as the robot operates. This can cause terminations to come loose or break.
-If anything needs to be worked on inside the robot there is an exponentially larger risk of something getting accidentally unplugged or snagged or *pick something annoying that happens to wiring*
-Loose wires are liable to be snagged in a mechanism (like those mecanum wheels just a few inches away) and become shredded. Ever seen a robot self-destruct when a wire/wire bundle gets snagged? It ain't pretty.

I get that its a practice bot, but it can serve for wiring practice as well as driving practice. Take some pride in your work!

EricS-Team180 21-02-2014 09:45

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Next Fall's rookie project: 1) Reverse engineer the functionality of each servo cable and pneumatic tube connection. 2) re-connect with a new clean and labeled layout.

They'll be ready for anything 2015 throws at ya :D

Eric

Al Skierkiewicz 21-02-2014 09:50

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Is this an Inspector's Test? How many violations can you list in five minutes? No really, I understand this is a practice bot. I would like to remind everyone that visibility is an item in inspections. We have to see what wire size is connected to what breaker size. That is pretty hard from this photo. It is actually hard to see very much of anything.
I would be afraid to put my hand into that mass, for fear something would eat it. Sorry, that was my first impression.

HerbertTreff 21-02-2014 19:56

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The Funny thing is that you cant even see the victors and spikes through the mess, but to put your minds at ease our real bots, well i would describe its wiring as neater than a librarian's book shelf, so there is no need to worry. But i do like the idea of making next years freshmen rewire this mess so they can start on their understanding of electronics. Thanks!:rolleyes:

Certified Nerd 22-02-2014 16:11

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Originally Posted by barn34 (Post 1347108)
not only that, but would they even get through inspection with that rat nest?

The team I joined this year had a wiring job like that on last year's robot. They passed inspection, but the inspectors didn't like it.


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