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the.miler 31-03-2014 17:40

Re: Wildcard 2014
 
For Silicon Valley Regional, I think the wildcard possibilities are as follows:

254 - Regional Winner (Central Valley & Waterloo)
368 - Regional Winner (Hawaii)
766 - Regional Winner (Sacramento)
846 - Regional Winner (Buckeye)
971 - Regional Winner (Sacramento)
1678 - Regional Winner (Inland Empire & Sacramento)
2135 - Regional Winner (Central Valley)
3256 - Regional Chairman's Award (Central Valley)

Please correct me if I've missed anyone. Silicon Valley should be exciting.

PVCpirate 31-03-2014 17:53

Re: Wildcard 2014
 
In addition to what has already been posted, there were a few other wildcard qualifiers in Week 5: 4069 Lo-Ellen Robotics and 5191 LANCERobotics at North Bay, and team 868 TechHOUNDS at Queen City.

Now, we're on to Week 6! (can you believe it's almost over?) It's the last chance for regional teams to qualify for Championship, and another big week for Wildcards! 51 teams can create Wildcard slots this week over 11 events.

Week 6 Wildcard Possibilities:

Bayou: 1311, 2468, 3937
Chesapeake: 229, 329, 1610, 1885, 4945
Colorado: 2996, 3562, 4499, 4944
Windsor-Essex Great Lakes: 772, 781, 1241, 1285, 1305, 2056, 4917
Las Vegas: 399, 987, 1266, 1717, 2122, 2403, 2486, 3309, 3476, 5012
Lone Star: 118, 148, 418, 457, 624, 1477, 2848
Midwest: 1732
New York City: 1156, 3158
South Florida: 108, 180, 4965
Silicon Valley: 254, 368, 766, 846, 971, 1678, 2135, 3256
Western Canada: 1334

Mastonevich 31-03-2014 23:04

Re: Wildcard 2014
 
Thanks Anthony, that looks like a comprehensive list. Good work.

Team3844 02-04-2014 15:43

Re: Wildcard 2014
 
Why are wildcard slots not generated when a team wins multiple championship bids at the same regional. It looks like the fact that the slot was created at that regional it should get used at said regional. Team 3844 was the Smoky Mountain Regional Finalist Team Captain. The regional winning alliance won the Chairman's. award along with the second bid for winning in Finals but due to it being in the same regional no wildcard slot was created. I guess I am just whining but it seems logical for the wildcard to take effect immediately.

PVCpirate 02-04-2014 15:57

Re: Wildcard 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Team3844 (Post 1368500)
Why are wildcard slots not generated when a team wins multiple championship bids at the same regional. It looks like the fact that the slot was created at that regional it should get used at said regional. Team 3844 was the Smoky Mountain Regional Finalist Team Captain. The regional winning alliance won the Chairman's. award along with the second bid for winning in Finals but due to it being in the same regional no wildcard slot was created. I guess I am just whining but it seems logical for the wildcard to take effect immediately.

While I would agree with you that a team that double qualifies at one regional should pass the extra slot on to another team at the same event, that simply is not how the system is set up right now. I'm not sure on the reasoning, could have something to do with the timing of finals and awards. The finalist team's qualification could seem sort of retroactive if it was done that way.

ErvinI 02-04-2014 16:50

Re: Wildcard 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1368507)
While I would agree with you that a team that double qualifies at one regional should pass the extra slot on to another team at the same event, that simply is not how the system is set up right now. I'm not sure on the reasoning, could have something to do with the timing of finals and awards. The finalist team's qualification could seem sort of retroactive if it was done that way.

Since RCA, EI and (iirc) RAS are given after the final matches, how do you "pass on" those awards if the winning teams also qualify via winning the regional? There's no "runners up" for these awards right now. You could announce at the very end of the ceremonies that a new wild card will be created for the winning finalists, although that will extend the ceremonies further (I don't think this is a big issue, but I can't see other reasons for the current wild card system being what it is.)

Team3844 02-04-2014 17:40

Re: Wildcard 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ErvinI (Post 1368525)
Since RCA, EI and (iirc) RAS are given after the final matches, how do you "pass on" those awards if the winning teams also qualify via winning the regional? There's no "runners up" for these awards right now. You could announce at the very end of the ceremonies that a new wild card will be created for the winning finalits, although that will extend the ceremonies further (I don't think this is a big issue, but I can't see other reasons for the current wild card system being what it is.)

I realize the order of awards makes it an issue, but it is a very small issue and would only add several minutes to the ceremony. I guess there must be a reason we don't see
because language in the rules calling only for previous winners is very to the point.


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