Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1351748)

Check out how the Human Player inbounded the ball each time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUi8ZEie7uw

Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1351773)

GTR West Q49. The blue alliance just executed a beautiful strategy with 3 weak robots and succeeded in 2 31pt cycles.

Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1351748)

Check out how the Human Player inbounded the ball each time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUi8ZEie7uw

Originally Posted by ToddF (Post 1351765)

From the wiki on 6061 aluminum:
"6061 is highly weldable, for example using tungsten inert gas welding (TIG) or metal inert gas welding (MIG). Typically, after welding, the properties near the weld are those of 6061-O, a loss of strength of around 80%. The material can be re-heat-treated to restore -T4 or -T6 temper for the whole piece. After welding, the material can naturally age and restore some of its strength as well. Nevertheless, the Alcoa Structural Handbook recommends the design strength of the material adjacent to the weld to be taken as 11,000 psi without proper heat treatment after the weld."

That compares to 35ksi yield strength of properly heat treated 6061-T6.

Teams that use welded aluminum construction need to realize that your welded joints are now incredibly weak. And that's if the welding has been done with perfect technique (certified welder with years of experience). High school grade workmanship will be way worse.

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1351824)

Just watched a rather amazing match at GTR.
Match 59: 1310 facing off against 610 (&Company)

1310 beats 610 by a score of 161/160 to clinch the number 1 seed. :yikes:

Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1351748)

Check out how the Human Player inbounded the ball each time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUi8ZEie7uw

Originally Posted by ThomasClark (Post 1351838)

Originally Posted by sodizzle (Post 1351843)

This seems absolutely crazy to me that almost 20% of all scores were made up of penalties. I believe that this is not the way the game was meant to be played.

Originally Posted by sodizzle (Post 1351843)

12.4% of winning alliances would not have won without penalty points? That's insanely high. If I am reading this correct and that is only the qualification matches being taken into account, I would be interested in seeing that same statistic for the eliminations.

Originally Posted by NickTosta (Post 1351827)

I'm more amazed by the poor defense being played than anything else. The blue alliance was certainly efficient, and certainly had two extremely capable robots, but it should have been trivial for a red robot(s) to shove one or both of the blue robots out of alignment.

Originally Posted by Rohawk1 (Post 1351875)

You're right, defense is most of the time pretty easy for stopping the catch, but we were paired with a large bot with a great shooter and 1772 had a strong drive train; it was pretty difficult to move around. Nevertheless, still the highest score in the world right now without penalties I believe.

Originally Posted by ThomasClark (Post 1351871)

Agreed. I haven't watched any streams, but it sounds like penalties are huge in a lot of places.



Not all eliminations matches have taken place yet, but it's currently around 9.8% of matches that were won by penalties.

For comparison, it was 3.9% of (all) matches last year.

Originally Posted by NickTosta (Post 1351881)

Yeah, I'm reasonably sure it's the high-high score no questions asked.

At any rate, I point it out not to take anything away from you guys' win (based on that video it's difficult to imagine a world in which you didn't win, defense or not), but mostly just because it's another important conclusion to be drawn.

There's a big reason why this game is so physical, and that match proves it.