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mizscience 01-03-2014 14:51

Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
Is there anything stopping teams from intentionally shooting any remaining autonomous balls over the side to get their first teleop cycle started quicker? (Other than losing a scoring opportunity, of course.) I've seen it done accidentally a few times in the Alamo webcast, but I'm not sure if there was a consequence.

Caleb Sykes 01-03-2014 14:53

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
Quote:

G11
BALLS may not be intentionally or repeatedly ejected from gameplay.

Violation: FOUL per instance.
In addition, the ball would be given to the nearest HP anyway.

mizscience 01-03-2014 14:56

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
Ah, yes. I didn't see any foul points given, though if it's accidental, they wouldn't have been applicable. Thanks for the quick answer!

samfruth 01-03-2014 15:55

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
Don't know the rule number but if a ball is thrown out by a bot then it is put back in as a auton ball. In other words, no truss or pass point possible until all three auton balls are scored or declared dead.

IronicDeadBird 07-03-2014 19:09

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
You can just opt to have your teams ball not included in Auton'

EricH 07-03-2014 19:29

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1355127)
You can just opt to have your teams ball not included in Auton'

#1 best way to handle the lack of autonomous scoring potential: Either give it to a guaranteed top shot, or wave it off and don't go for the shot.

DampRobot 07-03-2014 21:52

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1355133)
#1 best way to handle the lack of autonomous scoring potential: Either give it to a guaranteed top shot, or wave it off and don't go for the shot.

This is my number one reason for yelling at the webcast.

Teams, don't be stupid! Often, winning the match is just as easy as not wasting half the match picking up your missed auto balls and just doing three assist 1pt cycles instead.

Don't test your autonomous on the comp field. There's a practice field for a reason.

mdituri 07-03-2014 22:04

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
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Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1355186)

Don't test your autonomous on the comp field. There's a practice field for a reason.

Except that the ceiling wasn't high enough on the practice field to practice our autonomous. What percentage is a reasonable gamble? 50%...75%...

KeeganP 08-03-2014 08:46

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
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Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1355186)
Don't test your autonomous on the comp field. There's a practice field for a reason.

The Palmetto practice field goals were both 4" too tall at the bottom of the opening. What good is a practice field when it isn't built to spec?

IronicDeadBird 08-03-2014 23:03

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
To be completely fair though if you can get mobility points you can score a low goal in auton'

Caleb Sykes 09-03-2014 17:37

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
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Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1355629)
To be completely fair though if you can get mobility points you can score a low goal in auton'

Except that driving straight in auto is often a nontrivial task for robots without feedback sensors.

IronicDeadBird 09-03-2014 17:57

Re: Intentionally outbounding autonomous balls?
 
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Originally Posted by inkling16 (Post 1355963)
Except that driving straight in auto is often a nontrivial task for robots without feedback sensors.

Thats more then fair but the resources available should make it possible. I know team 1339 is going to make sure all teams on the alliance has an auto code for that 5 point bonus (or at least will make the attempt to.)


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