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Texas Rankings 2014
To continue last year's fun, I ranked the Texas teams using the FiM District Points Ranking System
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Thanks for crunching the numbers!
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Thank you for doing this, we all need to get ready for the transition to districts and this helps.
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Should I be excited or terrified?
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Cool - I didn't know 418 is the lowest numbered team that hasn't yet played a game. We're gonna solve that in Arkansas, though. Wish us luck. :)
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I get different points for 653 and 4332. The FIRST website has 653 with 4 wins and 4332 with 3 wins, for 8 and 6 points respectively, rather then 10 and 8.
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If people want to do this for other states/regions, this may be helpful: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2798
It's the same thing I made last year for this purpose, allows you to see what events teams are attending with the option to filter by location (state/province, country, district region affiliation). |
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EDIT: The reason for the error was because they were a no show in one or more of their matches, thus they did not get the win for said match. When I post the Week 2 update the errors will be fixed. |
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Good afternoon Texas. I have finished the week two rankings for Texas. Enjoy.
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Rank Team PointsHub City had only one DQ so this week's rankings update was quite easy. The Dallas regional is about to begin. I can't wait to see what happens with teams like 148, 359, 1477, 1817, 2415, 3310, 3847 attending. |
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Will there be an update to these rankings for Week 3? Thanks!
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Here's what I get. Data pulled from http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=127470
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One district event around NOLA and another by Lake Charles would work well to bring in a mix of teams...might as well through in the southern Mississippi teams as well. |
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Oh cool rank 12.
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3481 being ranked 11th of 132 after 1 and 2/3 regionals without a working shooter, we're pleased.
Since we've got the "firing" mechanism now worked-out (THANKS 359 Hawaiian Kids/Uncle Mel and NASA machine shop and 148 Robowranglers/VEXPro for the parts) I think with tuning and practice over the next 2 weeks we'll be able to improve our ranking. Looking forward to slamming it hard at Lone Star!! --Michael Blake |
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If teams still want to go play in other states and areas, nothing prevents teams from doing it. How many teams from Mississippi and Louisiana come to Texas events already (not many)? |
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Dallas - 3666 2012: Lone Star - 364, 1818, 3337 Alamo - 2080 2013: Lone Star - 3666, 3672 2014: Alamo - 3337 Dallas - 3616 4 teams from LA/MS just came back from Orlando and 3 teams went to Arkansas. (We're also making the hike to OKC next week). What's to say that teams won't travel if they have the opportunity to go to multiple events for $5000 and 3 for $6000. Just thinking out loud here. Quote:
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I guess it's just a part of FIRST growing up. |
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Anyone know what the horizontal line in the middle of the rankings is for?
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--Michael Blake |
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My fault, wasn't clear enough... --Michael Blake |
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Many thanks to Joe for updating the rankings while I was away on spring break.
Even though no Texas teams played in week 4, I do have a slight update to the rankings due to an error I found in qualification match 87 of the Dallas Regional. This match was not a surrogate match, but because of an error the results were not reflected in the winning team's qualification seed score. I have corrected the teams affected by this glitch.(704, 4206, 4354) Code:
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Can you double check 3735's points. I calculated 17 (14 win points and 3 draft points, 0 elim, award, or rookie points), you have 27.
For 1642, I have 8 win points at dallas and 4 at Alamo, you have 14 points total. |
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Here is the week 5 update.
Next week expect the tie breakers to be implemented for the top 70~ teams. Code:
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Excited for this to update!
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Working on it. Here is a small preview.
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Here is the week 6 and final update
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Rank Team Events Points Tie BreakerLast year, having a FiT District System would have been beneficial to Texas. With 140ish teams, Texas would have fielded 18~20 teams at World Championship, but only 17 Texas teams qualified. |
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Thank you for putting this together and I really hope we get to districts soon because it's not just about getting the right amount of teams to the championship event it's about recognizing the best teams.
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118 (Alamo, KC, LSR) 148 (Dallas, LSR) 418 (Arkansas EI) 457 (Dallas) 624 (Alamo, Alamo Chairman's) 1477 (Dallas Chairman's) 1817 (Hub City) 2158 (Alamo EI) 2468 (Hub City, Hub City Chairman's) 2848 (Dallas WC) 3103 (LSR EI) 3847 (LSR Chairman's) 4063 (Hub City) 5052 (Alamo RAS) 5057 (Dallas RAS) 5320 (Hub City) 2585 (LSR) Qualified but not yet registered 3997 (LSR WC) Qualified but not yet registered Alamo had a winner from HI, Hub City's RAS was from China, Dallas had qualifiers from HI and GA, and LSR's RAS was from Mexico. |
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I believe you missed 3310, BlackHawk...
They won in Colorado this weekend |
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118 (Alamo, KC, LSR) 148 (Dallas, LSR) 418 (Arkansas EI) 457 (Dallas) 624 (Alamo, Alamo Chairman's) 1477 (Dallas Chairman's) 1817 (Hub City) 2158 (Alamo EI) 2468 (Hub City, Hub City Chairman's) 2848 (Dallas WC) 3103 (LSR EI) 3847 (LSR Chairman's) 4063 (Hub City) 5052 (Alamo RAS) 5057 (Dallas RAS) 5320 (Hub City) 2585 (LSR) Qualified but not yet registered 3310 (Colorado) Qualified but not yet registered 3997 (LSR WC) Qualified but not yet registered Anyone know if these three plan on going? |
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We're not that forgettable I hope.
And we should be going. Texas looks to be strong both on the field and in the chairman's room at champs this year! |
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I think the district ranking system is a bit overrated ... but that's a whole different discussion.
For now, I'm interested in a championship-level teams Texas teams that did not make Championship. I think too many teams in Texas are under the radar because of the giant PR balloon created by the big 4 Texas teams. In no particular order, here is my list: 231 - ranked 3 at LSR, ranked 6 at Dallas, made elims in all three events. Very solid robot with a two-ball autonomous. 3481 - Bronc Botz - made finals at Dallas, elims in all three events, quality drivetrain and robot 1296 - Full Metal Jackets - good shooter and collection system, made elims in both events. 704 - Warriors - Ranked 8th at Dallas - great team and robot 4587 - Jersey Voltage - amazing 2nd year team , expect big things from 4587 2881 - Lady Cans- one of the best dual collector robots in Texas. best live group performance at a Robotics event ! 3005 - RoboChargers- up and coming team, had one of their best years and great robot performance 3999 - Shadetree Mechanics- solid passing robot that made elims at Alamo & LSR 3735 - KlienBots should have made the elims at LSR , best robot in their team history 2936 - Gatorzillas - amazing team , attempted swerve this year and a powerful shooter 3335 - made elims at LSR & Alamo , best robot in their team history 1429 - strong team with an ok robot this year. They tried to lay low for the elims at LSR, but sometimes it will make you miss elims. 3545 - Stacey Robotics - good shooting robot. Should have made elims at LSR. |
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2587 ought to be on that list, too... |
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Take for instance the problem west Texas is currently facing. With the recent increase of teams from 2 to 9, we face a number of issues. The Lubbock area simply does not have the resources (both in sponsors and in mentors) to support this many teams effectively. I estimate half of them would disband if FIRST in Texas stopped their sponsorship of these teams. And, correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe that most of these teams will lose that sponsorship due being older than 2 years after this season. |
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Money is a hard problem. I haven't heard of too many Texas teams that just go through the phone book and call for support. I have heard of other teams doing that before. |
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This is one of many threads that include a discussion about keeping Texas teams alive. Sharing money and time are, as stated earlier in this thread, really band-aids. They may get a team through a Thursday or even a season. But what is it that makes a team sustainable? Organization, mentors, fund-raising, local school support? Is there any way the established teams can help with such things? Can FIRST in Texas act as a conduit for any formal programs/actions/relationships to solve this problem?
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We have 18 Texas teams represented at the Championship.
![]() Here are my picks for who will make it to elims (10 out of 18 teams ! ) . Locks: 118 , 148 , 624 , 1477, 3310 Potentials: 1817 , 3847 , 2468 Dark Horses: 2158 , 2848 Texas teams did very well last year in eliminations, I predict at least two teams from Texas will make Einstein this year! |
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It does not take many people with deep pockets pushing for change at the state level for it to happen. Most of you can't remember school without "No Pass No Play" but that seemed to happen almost overnight when Ross Perot made it an issue. Mr. Rip |
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Going to the district model will definitely be better in terms of cost at least to attend two events. I know there will be some extra costs for travel for the teams that do not attend two events right now. BUT I think the return on the investment for those teams will be much appreciated. I do agree with you Scott, that getting deep pockets involved is very important to make changes. |
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The way some of us skirt the letter of the law is that the 8 hours a week only applies from the beginning of school Monday to after school Thursday. |
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Hey Texas teams - please stop by our presentation in room 230, 5PM on Wednesday the 23rd. The topic is "Real-Time Software in FRC Robotics".
Topics include: - Hard/soft real-time - temporal restraints, engineering methods etc - Real time operating systems - basic properties, IRQ and scheduling latency, what is a task? - Synchronization & Mutual Exclusion - semaphores, messages and delays - What is running on the robot? - BSP, OS, WPI & multi-tasking applications - Standard Practices - avoiding dynamic allocation, C++ dos and donts, formatted output, init then loop, resource reclamation, state machines - Analysis - simplified RMA equations, looking at DS message task, multiple PID classes and a drive task - WPI templates - Basic, Command-based, Robot Builder, custom methods - Q&A We do expensive week-long corporate training on these subjects (using VxWorks and Linux) - drop by and get a quick taste for free! |
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1477 - ranked 1st at 9-1 118 - ranked 8th at 8-2 148 - ranked 15th at 7-3 1817 - ranked 18th at 8-2 3847 - ranked 20th at 7-3 624 - ranked 21st at 7-3 2468 - ranked 26th at 7-3 457 - ranked 40th at 6-4 the rest of texas teams are not predicted to have winning records so I didn't include those schedules. |
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But that's why they play the matches :) |
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Congrats to 2468 on winning the curie engineering inspiration!
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Congratulations to 2158 for taking home Archimedes Engineering Inspiration. Way to represent!
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