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cmrnpizzo14 03-03-2014 19:28

Goalie Bots
 
After watching some of the competitions from over the weekend I'm much less skeptical of the goalie strategy and I actually think that this could be fairly viable now. Just from watching Southfield and 4854 (I think, my apologies if the number is wrong) a goalie caused serious havoc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GxroA_wcIo (Southfield QF1-1)

Are there any teams out there that are dedicated goalies or are considering to have a goalie strategy in their back pocket? Particularly any auton goalies that are willing to share their secrets.

Canon reeves 03-03-2014 19:45

Re: Goalie Bots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14 (Post 1352936)
After watching some of the competitions from over the weekend I'm much less skeptical of the goalie strategy and I actually think that this could be fairly viable now. Just from watching Southfield and 4854 (I think, my apologies if the number is wrong) a goalie caused serious havoc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GxroA_wcIo (Southfield QF1-1)

Are there any teams out there that are dedicated goalies or are considering to have a goalie strategy in their back pocket? Particularly any auton goalies that are willing to share their secrets.

From what I saw the bot never actually blocked in the goalie zone as in extending in it, but it did play good defense, but then again any robot can, here is Team Texplosion, they were in the Alamo Finals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkqRNhau6Ik I really want to see a goalie bot block some high goal shots, it seems like this robot knows when to and when not to goalie the high goal. Good goalie will be smart enough to only block when needed and play good defense when not!

cmrnpizzo14 03-03-2014 19:51

Re: Goalie Bots
 
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Originally Posted by Canon reeves (Post 1352948)
From what I saw the bot never actually blocked in the goalie zone as in extending in it, but it did play good defense, but then again any robot can, here is Team Texplosion, they were in the Alamo Finals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkqRNhau6Ik I really want to see a goalie bot block some high goal shots, it seems like this robot knows when to and when not to goalie the high goal. Good goalie will be smart enough to only block when needed and play good defense when not!

Phenomenal play at Alamo, you guys were very good. I will look for the matches in which 4854 actually plays as a goalie, they had a few blocks I think. They also used their height to block outside of the goalie zone at times.

Canon reeves 03-03-2014 19:53

Re: Goalie Bots
 
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Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14 (Post 1352955)
Phenomenal play at Alamo, you guys were very good. I will look for the matches in which 4854 actually plays as a goalie, they had a few blocks I think. They also used their height to block outside of the goalie zone at times.

I agree, but I'm not on their team, I just like their driving style a lot.

KamalRC 03-03-2014 20:18

Re: Goalie Bots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14 (Post 1352936)
After watching some of the competitions from over the weekend I'm much less skeptical of the goalie strategy and I actually think that this could be fairly viable now. Just from watching Southfield and 4854 (I think, my apologies if the number is wrong) a goalie caused serious havoc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GxroA_wcIo (Southfield QF1-1)
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At the end of the video there are two people dashing out on the field do anyone know why?

nikeairmancurry 03-03-2014 20:42

Re: Goalie Bots
 
There were dead bot issues during those quarter-final matches. So what your seeing is the FTA...

MrBasse 03-03-2014 20:43

Re: Goalie Bots
 
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Originally Posted by KamalRC (Post 1352966)
At the end of the video there are two people dashing out on the field do anyone know why?

Those are the FTA's trying to find out why 33's robot died at the end. When you have a reputation like the Killer Bee's your robot typically doesn't just stop moving. I'm guessing they were anticipating something catastrophic and then were happily relieved to see no smoke. We had the same response from FTA's last year after a 90" tumble at West Michigan.

samfruth 03-03-2014 20:50

Re: Goalie Bots
 
Over here at 1710 we have a pretty complicated strategy. Our bot is committed defense and our auton is pretty different from the normal strategy. You're welcome to PM me if you have more questions.

eli2410 04-03-2014 10:26

Re: Goalie Bots
 
We have both a shooter and goalie pole. Check out our facebook page, twitter (@team2410), or my Chief Delphi avatar/media to see it.

Chris is me 04-03-2014 10:49

Re: Goalie Bots
 
Goalies can't block the 1 point goal or the ten point area in front of said goal. Teams just haven't adapted yet.

MrBasse 04-03-2014 10:51

Re: Goalie Bots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1353247)
Goalies can't block the 1 point goal or the ten point area in front of said goal. Teams just haven't adapted yet.

Why can't they block the one point goal?

FrankJ 04-03-2014 10:58

Re: Goalie Bots
 
You can block the one point goal. But the extra height allowed in the goalie zone is not useful for that. So at that point you are no longer a "goalie" bot, but a robot playing defense. They also can't use their extra height to block the high goal behind the low goal.

alexander.h 04-03-2014 11:01

Re: Goalie Bots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eli2410 (Post 1353239)
We have both a shooter and goalie pole. Check out our facebook page, twitter (@team2410), or my Chief Delphi avatar/media to see it.

I just saw your robot (it's pretty great!) Do you think we have the time to make a quick high goal blocker (similar to yours) until March 20? Thanks!

MrBasse 04-03-2014 11:07

Re: Goalie Bots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankJ (Post 1353254)
You can block the one point goal. But the extra height allowed in the goalie zone is not useful for that. So at that point you are no longer a "goalie" bot, but a robot playing defense. They also can't use their extra height to block the high goal behind the low goal.

But they can use a 20" extension to block the one point goal and a vertical 6" cylinder to block the high goal at the same time. Making them still a goalie, but one that can multitask.

Chris is me 04-03-2014 11:14

Re: Goalie Bots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBasse (Post 1353251)
Why can't they block the one point goal?

You can't block all three sides of the 1 point goal at the same time... Easily.

If you are blocking the front and top, not only is the side open, you also probably are out of the goalie zone and you're leaving the ten point wide open. If you block the side and top, you leave the front open as well as the section of the goal above the 1 point goal open.


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