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2014 Greater Toronto East Regional
I have not found any thread for this regional yet.
Here is the Team list: GTR-E Teams Here is the webcast: http://www.watchfirstnow.com/ Good luck at the competition! |
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Did anyone just see Q4? I think we have a new match high score of 420! 250 from teleop, 170 from fouls. Red alliance.
It flowed like the 290 pt match at Palmetto, but with 3 bots. |
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The webcast appears offline. bummer
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Glad to hear it is working for some. Could be an issue for just me being behind firewalls and such.
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For me the video link is on and off. Just saw parts of the 420 score, lots of fouls.
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30 auto
220 tele 170 fouls 420 total... Wow |
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Is there any way to watch this on android without having to pay for the justin.tv app?
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All matches are available for re-viewing just minutes after ending.
Check http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archives frequently. |
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Thanks Adam, flashfox is working great.
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Did anyone catch what produced the Red Alliance score in Match 4?
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Still not much effective defense going on.
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The MAR event I was at last week was like Battle Bots. Those robots that could not shoot just beat the heck out of those who could. And NE will be even worse. I predict heavy damage to occur and the refs, even with an extra set of eyes, to have a hard time catching all the fouls. |
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Webcast Down?
Thanks Cullen |
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Webcast was working just before the break. |
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Hello,
Okay thanks for letting me know! Cullen |
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My bad, Fixed the url in my original post.
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According to the Justintv page for me it's saying there was a copyright DMCA violation and the watchfirstnow channel was taken down :(
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We heard that a team from Calgary has had their robot lost in transit for this event. :eek: :confused:
Team 2935 that competed in GTRW and went to finals 3-3 with their bot offered to the Calgary team to allow them to borrow 2935's robot. Unfortunately HQ stated that this would have been the greatest GP they have witnessed but have disallowed this to occur as it would be unfair to the other contestants at the event. Team 2935 fully respects HQ's decision and wishes the best of luck to all our fellow team members at GTRE. |
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Any chance of getting the live score on. There is no scoreboard showing.
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http://www2.usfirst.org/2014comp/Eve...chresults.html |
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All webcast down now
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Same here
Both webcasts are down |
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I have moved the streams to ustream for now. You can find them at
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gtr-east-2014 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/frc-gtr-east-2013 |
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GTRE1 video froze and GTRE2 page doesnt exist on ustream.
Like, the GTRE1 stream is froze in place and vibrating, but sound is working perfectly fine. |
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Cheers! |
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Neither are working. They must be working on the issue as the first one went totally down.
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Stream went out again! :(
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Watchfirstnow.com is on now
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Justin.tv had our accounts blocked due to a DCMA request, they have now featured our channels, this shouldn't happen again.
Everything should be running fine now, watch at http://www.justin.tv/watchfirstnow and for the full feild view http://www.justin.tv/watchfirstnow2 |
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The full field (without scores ) still not online. Showing Offline
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Neither page loads.
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Both working on watchfirstnow.com
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this works now
http://www.thebluealliance.com/gamed...w_1=2014onto-2 |
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Does anyone have a score breakdown from match number 18? I believe one of the scores was 261 but i missed it and was unable to see tele-op, auto points, and foul points.
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Blue strategy was 2 assists with a truss and high goal 2 technical fouls were called on the red alliance , not sure what for (there is a jump in the stream). Final score 261 blue , 16 red. around 100 foul points were given to the blue alliance. |
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TY Q MC 18 RF 16 BF 261 RA 3988 1075 1547 BA 2198 3386 1114 RFP 0 BFP 100 RHS 15 BHS 50 RTS 1 BTS 111 Red 3988 1075 1547 15 Auto 1 Teleop 0 Foul Blue 2198 3386 1114 50 Auto 111 Teleop 100 Foul Blue wins, 261-16 |
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Any update on when the archived matches are going up??
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They already are.
EDIT: the search feature doesn't seem to work for events, but it works for teams for me. You could use that if you are having troubles on the WatchFirstNow site. |
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I watched a few of these matches yesterday and the gameplay was SO BORING! Do they even play defense in Canada? :D *hides behind a fire door*
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Ha ha.. #sobait #simbotrisestothechallenge #fightthroughthetraffic
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Okay now I don’t get what an assist is, may be someone could help me out.
If robot B passes to the Human player and then the HP passes back to robot C, how did robot C get an assist from robot B? Just saw it happen in QF1-2 |
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Because ASSISTs are only related to unique ROBOT/ZONE pairs of POSSESSION.
To use QF1-2 as an example, HP inbounds to 4718 in the blue ZONE. 4718 passes to 3683 in the blue ZONE. 3683 drives to white ZONE, then throws over the TRUSS to the HP. HP passes back to 1114 in the red ZONE, who scores it. 4718/BLUE, 3683/WHITE, 1114/RED. 3 ASSISTs. |
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How bout them penalties tho.
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Simbotics just got knocked out in the SF. They haven't missed a finals for a regional since 2009 at the midwest regional.
They were knocked out in the second SF by a opposite possesion error. and by the #5 alliance even (captained by the 6th seed), which shut the red alliance down pretty effectively in the first SF. insane matches all around, showing again the super high quality of the ONTO region teams. |
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Congrats to the blue alliance. A couple of great matches to watch. -Nick |
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Being totally fair to 1285/4476/2198,
Blue won SF1-1 on strategy and defense once ahead, and they were forced to play SF1-2 with 2198 disabled. |
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Pure epic!!!
1285/4476/2198 knocked out the #1 alliance. They knocked out the #1 alliance with 1 robot (2198) disabled too. Wow!!! What a match!! I love this years game!!! Cullen |
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They accidentally caught the blue ball after it was shot over the truss. And quickly (as they could) removed it from their robot. I'm not 100% on the rules on this one. But shouldn't that not be a T-Foul? |
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They had possession. T foul
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Wow :ahh: Blue just played F1 with only two bots :yikes:
I wonder why they didn't call for a backup bot:confused: |
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It's really hard to replace the second overall pick.
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Now, if the blue team intentionally put the blue ball in the red robot, it would be causing them to take a penalty. But they just went for the truss shot that bounced into the red robot. Either way, it is really heart breaking when the top seed loses before the finals. Kudos to the blue alliance for playing good defence and having a really well rounded alliance! |
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and now they have taken out the #2 alliance in the finals. Fantastic work all around. Congrats 2198/4476/1285!
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This q&a addresses the direct question. It does leave the exact situation open to interpretation to the referees, but it does let you know what the GDCs line of thinking is on this situation. Crazy matches. Crazy tournament. Not surprised that members of both 4476 and 1285 were at GTRW and took some of the strategic play back east with them. |
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Crazy to say the least. I've never seen an eliminations bracket like this, with such extreme circumstances. The penalty values make every match a swing match. Thus, making it heavily reliant on alliance synergy and strategies! |
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To me, it's more like this: "The penalty values make every match a swing match. Thus, making it heavily reliant on referees implementation and interpretation of the rules." C'mon guys. 50 pt penalty for inconsequential ball in another teams robot. I understand what the rule says, but think it is stupid. A rule like this should make it so the refs can determine if it was inconsequential to the score or not. Anyone watching this particular situation in SF1-2 could see what happened and the ball was immediately ejected from the robot. It was ejected much faster than even field reset can give the ball back to the human player. These rules and point values are out of whack. Seriously out of whack. My comments after week 1 still stand. Crazy game? That's one way of saying it. |
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i know this isn't a YMTC thread, but since we're bringing the point of possesion up...
If I'm lined up for a catch, my ally and opponent both fire, my ally misses, but my opponent's ball ends up in my catcher, what would you call that? I don't see how in a game where catching is an objective, you can design something that doesn't catch opponent's balls on accident. |
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My biggest problem with this game isn't just that it is too easy to get fouls. It is that you can get easily get fouls for things which barely hurt the opposing alliance, all these common fouls are technical fouls, technical fouls are worth 50pts a piece, and 50pts are enough to change the outcome of most matches. |
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However, if we want the refs to determine which robot actions are consequential, we have to let them follow the big picture. As it stands now, they are too busy staring at trees (possessions, trusses, catches, goals) and then waiting for their scoring tablet lags to clear. So they miss the forest. That would not matter in the particular case being discussed here since the rule is very clear -- even if many of us agree it is "out of whack". Being a ref is hard, any year. This year it is harder because they are also part of the real time scoring system. That is the GDC's mistake. |
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Since this is not the catching thread...
Congratulations are in order for 4476, 1285 and 2198 for winning GTRE and 781, 3161 and 5036 for advancing to champs! I'm wondering if 5036 knows yet that they qualified for champs... |
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781 has the best Chairman's award video I have ever seen.
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I won't comment on the game, but I think my feelings are like Gregor's, but even stronger after this competition. The eliminations at the very least were exciting, and it was fun working with our alliance partners 3988 and 3386--I'm sure if 1241 wasn't pulling off that great defence with that fantastic chassis, we would've been able to shoot a lot more goals in the top. I would also like to thank Karthik for being, once again, a great MC for how often I saw him. He really got our team pumped for the match, regardless of my prior mood or the importance of said match. Oh, and if anyone was curious, our first few matches were iffy because the sprockets for the left drive's chain had gotten chewed out. I'm sure people noticed the vast improvement afterwards--too bad that took up the time that I (the programmer) could've used for a 2 or 3 ball auto test :rolleyes: On that note, thanks to Team Dave for delaying the match by like 20 minutes. We would've missed our match for 1114 with the stuff we had to fix if they hadn't delayed. |
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The GDC worked on it some, but the penalty points are out of whack, and the refs are still overworked. That said, I suspect this is the game we're playing for the rest of the year. We're in the process of modifying our robot accordingly. |
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We've had our intake out to pick up a ball, and been slammed into from the side, and had the intake swipe an opponent's robot inside the frame perimeter as a result. Again a 50 pt penalty. I'm being 100% honest in saying that both the situations above are very different than what happened in SF1-2. 4718 had the entire half of the field themselves when the opposing ball landed. No other robots pushed them or forced them to go towards the ball. The ball landed feet away from them, and they chose to drive towards it. I've told my drive crew not to play defense on the opposing ball, only the opposing robots - that's how the rules are written due to these tech fouls. We asked the Q&A quoted earlier in this thread to clarify too. "Accidentally" catching a ball was a risk just not worth taking. I find it hard to say that 4718 was forced into taking this penalty. My opinion is that they made a mistake driving towards the ball, that ended up being a very costly one. 10/10 times my strategy guys would've said the better move would've been to drive towards the robot expected to pick up the ball and score it, to seal them off from the ball. I agree there are some "forced" penalties in this game that I have seen, that are less than fair... ...but this is NOT one of them. |
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