Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

Thanks for that clarification-- We encountered a similar long conference at Lake Superior and the discussion took place at one of the tables near a monitor. I wondered to myself about possible video review at that point, but felt it was unlikely. I was not really paying attention to where the discussions took place this time, but threw the video review out as something of a wild guess based on my recollection of the Lake Superior discussion.

I don't envy their job at all (or yours!) and certainly appreciate all the volunteers do to make these events happen.

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

Had a great time at WI, we did our team De-briefing last night and positive remarks all around for the Regional.
But the above remarks do make one think! Should FRC have video review? Or would that just muck everything up, slow things down, and teach us/make us more "litigious"?

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

For anyone interested in match videos and pictures from the event, we should have some up on our team facebook page within the day or so. I'll post the link once it looks like we've compiled everything as best we can. It's been a whirlwind couple of days, to say the least.

Once again, congrats to all the competing teams that contributed to another amazing regional experience in Milwaukee!

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

Even though I can prove my team won at least one match due to either incorrect ref calls or assists not counting I still feel video review would ruin the flow of the field. So, in short, no.

One idea for elims that I have heard is to issue a "challenge card" but when you use it, you lose access to your timeout and replacement robot cards. At the same time if you use your timeout or replacement robot card, you cannot use your challenge card. If the challenge card is used, the alliance captain has 3 minutes to prove that there was an incorrect call during the match. This way it takes less time than a timeout and should not significantly affect the flow of eliminations.

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

Here we go, guys! We've got quite a few pictures compiled and the match videos are getting uploaded (slowly) as I type this. You can find them on our team facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/team2481

If anyone else has pictures or videos you'd like to share with us, please do so! We will continue to add to the picture gallery and videography as we receive them. Enjoy!

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

They look great barn34. Nice job to whoever took them:)

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

Thanks!

I'll post specific video links here for everyone's convenience. I'll update it as the videos are uploaded. So far, all of our matches from Saturday are up.

Q77 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-IO1lYbtA
Q88 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T4YECH-06w
Q93 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytfb4zYWHAI
QF3-1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYnsHDUAo1I (Wheel encoder comes loose, presumably on one of the defensive collisions with 2512, creating a wheel that's fighting against the other 3 until the main breaker eventually trips leaving us dead for a good portion of the match. Hilltoppers were also disabled after they had a bumper fall off. B'East fought valiantly in our honor, but in this game 1 vs. 3 is a headshot. We found the issue in the pits afterwards, corrected it as best we could given the time, and also started icing down the breaker between matches.)
QF3-2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cycv7zO0EIw (Completed this match without issue and continued to ice the main breaker. Made a strategy adjustment at this point to turn 1732 and 2202 into twin outlet zone flares to minimize the ability of the defense to stall our truss pass runs. The third assist between them was only done if the defense gave them the opportunity.)
QF3-3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q6Mu2IzuDo (Breaker again overheats with about 30 seconds to go. 2202 and 1732 did an amazing job finishing the scoring run, getting another quick one, and playing great defense the rest of the way. Made a slight adjustment to our drive style on defense to hopefully help reduce the heat load on that breaker.)
SF2-1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyzWLeZbgbk (Breaker trips for the 3rd time with around 30 seconds remaining, once again. At this point, it was obvious that it was becoming easier and easier to trip each time and the ice wasn't able to get it cool enough between matches as the time was reduced between them. We finally swapped the main breaker between SF2-1 and SF2-2 and it did not trip the rest of the way. The continued icing and subtle drive adjustments we made were able to keep us operational.)
SF2-2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEBa5H1khk
F1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE94RoMd62E (Red alliance called a timeout following the match.)
F2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4AYeJGE5ds (While checking on the same encoder from QF3-1 during the timeout between F1 and F2, it ended up 15 degrees out of alignment. You can clearly see our control is uncharacteristically sloppy as a result in the final match. Our drivers deserve a ton of credit for compensating for the issue as best they could and still valiantly finished off our alliance's scoring runs.)

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

Hey everyone,

It's a bit late, but I'd like to say that GRT 192 had a great time at the Wisconsin Regional! It was our first time that far up north, but everyone was really welcoming and helpful (almost every parts request was immediately met). Shout out to team 1714 MORE Robotics for helping us transport our robot.

Congratulations to the winning alliance 2481 The Roboteers, 1732 The Hilltoppers, and 2202 BEAST Robotics. Also, thanks to 2470 The Blitz Team and 1675 The Ultimate Protection Squad for being fantastic alliance partners!

We saw some robots at Wisconsin that used ideas we've never seen before, and we're looking forward to trying some of them out ourselves back at home. Wisconsin was definitely an eyeopener for us, and if we get a chance, we'd definitely love to come back!

That red team from California,
Gunn Robotics 192

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Those videos, I guess mostly on where they were recorded from, are absolutely awesome to view.

I am curious how those SF would have ended up had they been full alliances for both sides and if we didn't have our big timeout fiasco and have our working pneumatics for the auto's.... It was fun either way :)

Any other videos that people have, feel free to post... I am still looking for QF4-Match 3... seems to be the only match that my team did not catch, that is the one I wanted to see the most haha.

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I'm sorry to hear that, it really is a beautiful machine and it's a shame you didn't get it working to it's full potential.

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

If you view our release video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8sxcxqOOMA you can see that the original design was to have lexan covering both sides of where that router is.

Unfortunately when we weighed in at our first tournament we were *9* lbs over 120 (shocking all of us). Turns out no one considered the weight of the lexan. We had no choice but to get rid of the lexan. We simply did not have the time nor forethought to do much about the radio and just had to go with it.

We are still a very young team-- this is the 4th (maybe 5th) year this particular mix of students and mentors have worked together. The students own this robot-- the design, the CAD, the work, the programming. We mentors have felt somewhat obsolete this year.

We would love to revel in being the 4th seed having gone 9-1 and making it to finals, defeating the #1 seed in the process. We would have loved to have reveled in going to Wisconsin (honestly a generally more competitive regional than the 4 available in MN) and making eliminations as an alliance captain even had we lost that Q2 M3.

We only lost one match during quals (an unfortunate situation where a brand new jag freaked out on us and shorted such that it ran its motor even after the round was complete). When we were paired with a good truss thrower we put up scores of 176 (with 1714) or 155 (with Cyber Hawks). I don't recall fouls affecting our scores much in any of our quals. We were maybe #21 in assist points, #9 in auto score (we scored 25 in all 10 qual matches) and 5th in telop points. We were #6 in OPR for the regional and #3 in CCWM. Our T&C was lower because unless we had a good shooter or a good truss thrower we always opted for assist points rather than us doing our own truss to human followed by our own shot and we just did not have that many matches with another bot that could throw a quick truss.

For the first time in its brief history, this team was highly ranked in not just one MN regional but in 2 regionals including the esteemed Milwaukee regional. But somehow there seems to be a dark cloud over all those achievements this group of students accomplished as a team because they did not think to better protect their radio after they had to quickly reduce weight. They did not go out begging for review or challenging the match. We were not influential in the way it was scored.

I feel terrible that the #5 was eliminated the way it went down-- that's heartbreaking. I just wish I could feel better about how others felt we did at this tournament. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive.

But I want to send out props to all the students on 3018 for exceeding all past achievements by building a robot that plays the game well and I want to wish them all the best at Championships (where I'm sure the radio will be better protected :) ).

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

The match that you guys lost because of the unfortunate short, we [1306] got tipped over too, so our alliance was playing 1 vs 3. Here is the match video for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OniibVdokLU


Overall I'm proud of 1306's performance at Wisconsin. Although we finished ranked 36th, we were ranked in the top 25 in scores for auto and assists, and even were ranked 4th in teleop scores. We helped to get 2 out of the 3 QM scores over 200, first with 2481 and 537 with a score of 205 and then a higher score of 218 with 93 and 111. We had a few unfortunate alliances that dropped us down in the standings, but I still feel we did our best.

Best of luck to the teams who qualified for championships!

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

I had the same thought myself on the way home after the regional. Feel free to look up our accolades for the year also. I thought we had a chance at our teams first blue banner this year, but ended up short in quals both times, and both tough losses in our 3rd matches in which I thought we played great. I was surprised we slipped as much as we did during selection at Wisconsin. I'm not sure if anyone noticed or not, but we missed two auto shots the whole Wisconsin regional even with two redo matches. One was due to a loose rope causing the ball to fall out the side and the other was a bad turn due to a burnt out Talon.

You guys took down a very good #5 alliance with us being the 3rd robot and proceeded to make it to finals once again. I think this speaks volumes for your team. If my comments in the other thread brought your team down in any way, I do apologize, that was not the intent.

For fun, checkout our damage after Central IL (these are inside our frame at all times by the way):
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ghlight=damage

We couldn't pick up a ball anymore as we could no longer put our arm down and we were out of spares. This year truly is a rough game demanding tough robots. Our 3/4 inch solid aluminum rod did it's job protecting them at Milwaukee.

Good luck at champs, I'm sure you guys will do well.

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

No need to apologize-- We stuck to the facts, reviewed videos, tried to figure out what the heck went on. I appreciate the exchange.

I'm probably overly sensitive because this is only my 3rd year as a mentor and my son is on our drive team. I kind of inferred from the other comment I quoted that perhaps it was our own fault that we disabled and had we built our robot 'properly' we would have properly lost that match and there would have been no drama. This could easily all be in my head as I can't be sure what that poster was meaning to imply-- and my inference may have been off base. But at the same time I did want to give a shout out to any of our students who may have been following the thread and might possibly have reached the same inference i had.

Yes! I had seen those pics already (before WI iirc). At our first tournament, our first pick 2052 lost their truss shot after I think 2 matches. Our frame was tweaked badly, completely breaking our autonomous for nearly all of elims (losing 25 pts and having to chase our ball down each match)-- finally got it to work again in the 3rd finals match.

Thanks-- I hope so!

My first year with the team (rebound rumble) we made it to championships on the shirt-tails of King Tec and M.O.R.E being picked 3rd to join the #1 alliance in Lake Superior. At our 2nd tournament we modified our shooter and managed to become the #1 seed, but lost in the semis. We were very optimistic about doing well at championship, but the variance of the balls on the field plagued us-- and we wound up something like #50 on Newton and were not picked.

Last year we built a robot that could climb (nuff said). We got to Championship from Engineering Inspiration award at 10,000 lakes, and won the creativity award at St. Louis, so it wasn't a bad season at all, but again, no elims.

We do hope that this year that we can remain functional for the entire tournament, and either be picking or be deemed a top 32 bot that can help an alliance by those doing the picking. But I've certainly learned in my short 3 years that *nothing* can be taken for granted.

Re: 2014 Wisconsin Regional
 

We were so, so close :( I share your feelings on that one.