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60 teams this year, looking to be one of, if not the toughest regionals this year.

2826 is excited to return again and we are looking to improve on our success from Northern Lights this past weekend and qualify for Championships.

To aid in scouting I have created a google doc of all the teams attending. I am only asking for a picture and/or a video of your robot. If you feel like giving more info feel free to add more info to the document.

2014 Wisconsin Regional robot pictures

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4 of the teams on that list may have had a fun day down in Winnebago yesterday :) (and a DELICIOUS lunch)

Needless to say, I'm really excited. This regional is going to be a heavy hitter. 9 more days!

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How was the get together Josh? I really wanted to go! I did end up seeing some video from Arthur, but I wish I would have been there! I hear everybody was doin' awesome. I'll see you in Milwaukee!

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The Hilltoppers are looking forward to one of the deepest Regionals in FRC. Wisconsin might not have the most teams, but the Wisconsin Regional draws some of the best. Good luck everyone!

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Had a blast at Superior this past weekend.
Big thanks to our finalist partners 3883 and 3313 and a great big congrats to the winning alliance 3692 3018 and 2052.
Making some improvements for Milwaukee and coming to play hard.
If Milw is anything like Duluth, BUILD A RESILIENT ROBOT.
It was a HARD hitting battle up in Duluth.
CYA in Milw.

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This regional keeps getting more and more stacked each year. If the eliminations at Lake Superior were exciting, I wonder how epic the finals in Milwaukee will be.

(1306 photo added to spreadsheet.)

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Should be a ton of fun as usual! 537 is looking forward to it.

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We have a plethora of regional finalists that will be attending milwaukee and at leasst two engineering inspiration awards winners (MORE Robotics and STEMpunk.) I'm sure the trophey count is a lot higher. I might try compliling a list if I have time tonight.

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From Central Illinois alone, attending Wisconsin regional will be 3 regional finalists and 1 regional winner.

Should be a fun regional this year... ;)

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We should add a column to the spread sheet for awards won!

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Yeah that was awesome Bruce!!! Can't believe our teams ended up against each other in the finals, and knew those last 3 matches were going to be extremely hard fought and could go either way.

See you in a couple weeks!

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With 2 weeks done 34 of 60 robots competing at Wisc have done there 1st regional.
We have 3 regional winner*wildcards* 4296 from CIR, 3018 & 3692 from L/S
5 Finalist 2039, 171, 4143 from CIR 2826 FROM N/L 706 @ L/S
6 Teams semi finalist 2081 @ CIR 876, 2512 @N/L 537, 48 @ CROSSROADS, 192 @ HUB
8 Quarter finalist 167, 2481, 1736 @ CIR 269, 1259 @ N/L 1714, 93 @ L/S 2202 @ Cross
or 22 out of 34 teams made it to elimination rounds

some very good robots were not picked for elimination rounds but will be ready to roll @ Wisc

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Added a video for 537 to the spreadsheet, just a match from Crossroads.
If anyone has questions about our robot, feel free to ask me.
Can't wait for this year's regional! Should be a lot of fun. :)

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Just a few short days 'til it's time to get our assist on, once again! As always, we're excited to be attending and competing with all the usual suspects. IMO, Wisconsin is one of the most overlooked and underrated regionals in the FRC circuit by the community at large, and this year is even more stacked with some awesome new faces. The Roboteers are looking forward to tossing that big ball around with all of you as the robot revolution takes over Milwaukee, yet again! Best of luck to everyone and we'll see you all in a couple short days!

I noticed our reveal video is already in the doc, but here's a link to one of our matches from CIR to add to the list:

http://youtu.be/oiEA8Gu6dUo

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The NCAA basketball tourney 1st and 2nd rounds will be playing Thursday and Saturday next door in the Bradley center. Parking could be difficult for visitors if they come late either day. Make sure you let your friends and family know to arrive early if they want to park close.

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This is very true. It is too bad that it will be overlooked again with much of the attention being drawn to 254-1114-2056 at Waterloo. If people want a good prediction of how the championship will play out, Wisconsin, not Waterloo, is the event to watch. With a field of 60 teams, roughly 40 of which have already competed, there will be some very capable robots watching Saturday afternoon.

Does anyone have the link the webcast?

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The Midwest vs Wisconsin regional scale has been tipping over the last few years. Wisconsin is definitely going to be a killer event.

There are a bunch of awesome teams (besides 1675) also making their debuts here... and I have to say that some of the ones I've seen are definitely scary :eek: .

Someone added it to the list already, but we whipped up a robot video over the weekend. Meet Charles Xavier / Professor X.

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GRT will be meeting at the school at 3:50 AM Wednesday to get to our flight. It should be a great event. See you there.:)

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Make sure you guys bring jackets! I'm seeing 40's for the rest of the week. Sweater weather for us after the winter we just went through, but might be a little chilly for you guys ;)

Also Milwaukee looks pretty gross right now since all the snow melted last week, hopefully a light rainshower comes through to at least pretty it up a little.

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Chicago needs a good soaking to clean up the mess.

Also our load in peeps(me and others) get to leave for Wisconsin at 5:30am. I am so excited but not for that. :rolleyes:

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Any word on a webcast for this event? The regional website says that there will not be one because of no internet at the venue? Not even match results?

http://www.wisconsinregional.com/GameDay.php

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Good luck to everyone on Team 48 heading up to Wisconsin. It's been a long time since I missed a regional with you--I'll be with you all in spirit!

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According to their Facebook page, there is now a webcast. I am sure their website will be updated soon.

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Does this mean no data for apps like Spyder? Will match data be posted at some point when someone has internet access such as Friday night, or will results not be posted during the whole event? The site says to follow the twitter feed, but will there be match data posted on twitter without internet access?

The event will go on without, but these things are nice for those at the venue as well as those who can't make it and want to follow teams at the event.

Edit: Sounds like there will be access after all. Yay!

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With our preparation to fix out battle scars from CIR, 4296 is ready for Wisconsin to play some more heavy defense :cool:
Or as referenced at CIR... BattleBots... haha

Good luck everyone! See you tomorrow!

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FYI,

Be aware that the cost of parking sounds like it could be $50-$70 on Thu and Sat due to NCAA basketball. One of our mentors called the Wisconsin Center District office and they said their parking rate is normally $15 and would not be above their special event rate of $20 but she said that since the Bradley center was going to be $75 and theirs would be the least expensive in the area, their lot will likely fill fast.

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Parking at Grande Avenue Mall is a bit farther away but only costs $15.

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From the regional chairman......


Teams,
Great news! Thanks to some generous late minute sponsors, we are proud to announce that the Wisconsin Regional will be broadcast live, in high definition, on the internet!

Here’s the link: http://205.196.146.40/frc/

The capability provided by 5Nines will auto-detect flash browser, iPhone/iPad, and most Android 4.x series phones properly. Don’t forget to click the “HD” button on the upper right to see the feed in High Definition!

We hope you’ll share this information with your friends and family that can’t be here in person, and once again, offer sincere thanks to Sargent Productions, 5Nines, and the Wisconsin Center District for making this happen.

Good Luck Teams!!

Jeff Fenstermaker
Chairman, Wisconsin FRC Regional Planning Committee

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This!

Thank you to everyone who helped make this happen. This will be a great competitive regional as always, and the HD broadcast puts it over the top.

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I cannot agree more. We were worried that we wouldn't have a live feed for At The Control, but now that we do, you can remind your alumni, parents, and sponsors that they can watch your team at competitions on http://www.atthecontrol.com/.
Good luck to all the teams competing at the regional! I'm sure it will be a fantastic event as usual.

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Looking forward to the event tomorrow. Knowing how many teams are returning from CIL and the level of play at that event despite only being in week 1, I'm excited for what Wisconsin will be like this year. Glad to see the event will be available for all in HD.

Be sure to stop by team 167's pit to say hi and pick up a toothbrush!

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T-Minus 5 hours until we leave for the competition!

We will be really busy until our robot is built.

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Very excited to be there with 3081. I won't be there until later today since I have class at the community college this morning, but I'll be there the rest of the weekend. It'll be my first time being in Milwaukee at all, and I can't wait to see how the regional plays out.

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If any team isn't planning on using their scouting wrist bands, 1732 will trade your bands for our scouting data on Friday night. If interested, please PM me, find us in scouting section or ask for Wes in the pits. Thanks!

EDIT: thanks to 48, 171, 1714 and 4212 for working with us.

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For those of you that knew of the "race" between MARS/WARS 4143 and Trident Robotics 4296 of first to a practice match the winner was... neither of us... I am not sure on 4143, but 4296 missed their last practice match by about 10 minutes...

Good luck in the matches that we all do participate in.

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The balls here at Wisconsin are a lot harder than they were in Duluth. We had to modify the robot a bit to get the intake to work. No big deal but I just wish it could be more consistent.

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I have to say, +1 for the HD webcast. I am really enjoying the quality! :D

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So what's the deal with parking for the event? Did anyone actually pay over $20 on Thursday? I would like to go but don't want to pay a ridiculous amount to park.

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Been having stream issues on and off today for Wisconsin. Haven't got to see any 111 or 2826 matches. Any news on what problems they might have been seeing?

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I've been having issues with the Wisconsin stream as well.

I tried Chrome, Firefox, and IE with and without HD and it still has issues.

I tried it from a different location with different internet access with all three browsers with and without HD and still has issues.

Bummer.

I'm a volunteer there and paid $5 yesterday and $15 today (for the sake of convenience; I'm in the lot right across the street from the venue).

There's a lot that's close to the Milwaukee Public Market on Clybourn street (about a 15 minute walk away from the venue) that's $5 all day if you're in by 9 am; I used that one yesterday.

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What do you guys think of this regional?! And what team are you cheering for if you (if you aren't in this regional?)

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Do my eyes deceive me or am I seeing Wildstang near the bottom of the standings winless through seven matches? What's the story?

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I really don't want to be the one saying the bad things about Wildstang but they are having problems with their shooter and their pick up is okish.

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So they have improvements to make before Midwest from the sounds of it.

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I am surprised too. I hope they figure it out, I'm sure they will. They always seem to.
Super awesome to see so many of the other teams I root for way up there in the standings (1675 UPS is one of the NICEST groups of kids & mentors in FIRST)!
Wish I could head on out there to watch but I am stuck working and the cost to park is a huge deterrent for only two hours at the event. Good luck teams.

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It was a long and hard battle for 1st place. Very intense and was so exciting. We (2512) made it to the quarter finals. Teams 2202, 2481, and and 1732 won.

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Thanks to both Team 3418 Robo Riot and Team 2039 Rockford Robotics for helping carry us to the semifinals. We had a lot of fun with all of you and hope to see you next year! :)

Wisconsin was a great event as usual. Congrats to all the winning teams. 2481, your bot is the reason we are already considering swerve for next year. Good job to 1732 on their second Wisconsin win in a row, and congratulations to 2202 on their first regional win. Also great job to 2081 on their Engineering Inspiration - we really enjoyed working with you guys when we were paired together. Have fun at St. Louis, all of you!

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WOW!! What a regional! This has to have been the best WI Regional ever. The teams were outstanding, the competition was fierce, the arena was just buzzing with energy and spirit, the volunteers were outstanding. Well Done Everyone!

Team 1675 UPS had a great time all weekend. Thanks everyone for the compliments and encouragement throughout the weekend. We typically do not have a great showing at our home regional (in terms of robot AND team) but everything clicked for us this weekend and it was a great way to celebrate our 10th anniversary at home.

Thanks to 2470 - Blitz Team and 192 - GRT for being outstanding partners in the finals. You guys were great to work with. We had the #1 seed beat, but alas, fouls sent us packing. Thanks for selecting us and giving us a chance, and especially thanks to 192 for spending so much time trying to help us get our release mechanism figured out. We've already ordered parts to make this a non-issue in Chicago.

Special shout out to 2202 B'EAST Robotics. I got to know this team a little bit in the fall and they reminded me so much of our team and the progression they've made over their 7 years. Congrats on the win and earning a spot in St. Louis and congratulations to Richard for the WFA!!! You truly deserve it!!

Finally, HUGE congrats to 1732 - Hilltopper Robotics for an amazing run in the finals - I can't think of a better way to honor Drew. The video tribute on Saturday morning moved me to tears and your robot tribute capturing Gold was a fitting end to the day :)

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Well said Kevin! Ditto on the competition and the tribute.

We knew we had our work cut out for us with all the battle tested teams we were up against. We take solace knowing that the great competition in Wisconsin has made our team better and stronger for Midwest.

It was great seeing everyone and getting a chance to catch up. Very well run. 60 teams and no hickups. We were done in record time. Thanks to all the volunteers and regional planning committee.

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4296 here,

We had a lot of fun this regional, and finally being able to give some sort of showing at the Wisconsin regional this year (9th of 60) in comparison to last year (45th of 57). We also showed that defense can really help win games, being able to place 9th by playing almost solely defense/intake every single qualifier match. On that note, if anyone happens to have video of Quarter Final 4-Match 3, I would LOVE to see it... I was concentrated so much on defense of that last autonomous goal that I didn't actually see any of the rest of the match... I honestly don't even remember the score/how close it was or anything haha.

Congratulations to 1732, 2202, and 2481 for their victory... we ended up getting a lot closer than we thought we would facing you guys 2 vs 3 for a majority of our match in our second match in the semi-finals.(A MASSIVE thank you to 167 for this and their carry of scoring for us, while we remained on defense).
It was well fought by both alliances in the finals and I enjoyed being able to watch both matches. I can't wait to see you all again in St. Louis :)

Thank you for the alliance selection by 2530 and 167, we are glad to have continued strengthening 4296's bond with 167 from CIR and now through Wisconsin and hope to continue to form stronger bonds with the rest of the teams that we meet. We apologize about not being able to load a ball for autonomous for our last two matches; the reason for it was due to a pneumatics leak prior to the first match that we were not able to fix with the whole timeout problem, and when we were able to fix the leak between the matches, we were then short on time to actually pressurize our system. All I know of from the problems that 2530 was having was a battery problem the very first match in Quarters, and something regarding a motor controller for semis, didn't really ask for a more in depth response, there wasn't much need. Everyone had fought as hard as they could and I am extremely proud of our alliance and how well we had competed and worked together.

Thank you everyone for the great regional, hope to see some more of you guys later in St. Louis!

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It was 2470's first time at the Wisconsin Regional and for over 50% of our team, it was the first time they had ever experienced a FIRST Robotics Competition Event. We went into this event knowing that it was going to be an extremely competitive regional and we came out in very high spirits. We would have never guessed that we would rank 8th and become alliance captains at the beginning of the event.

192 - GRT Thanks for being amazing alliance partners! We really had a great strategy going into the quarter finals and it was a winning strategy until the penalties changed that. Your two ball autonomous was great and one of the main reasons we picked you for our alliance. We hope to work with you again in the future!

1675 - UPS You guys are one of my favorite teams in Wisconsin (although, I may be biased thanks to Renee) and we were proud to have you as an alliance partner. It sounds like you guys have worked the kinks out of your shooter, I wish you luck at Midwest and we hope to see you at Champs!

Congratulations to 1732, 2202 and 2481, you guys made a great alliance and I am sure you will do well to represent the Wisconsin Regional at Championships!

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Yes, thanks to the Hilltoppers for sharing Drew's smile with all of us who did not know him personally. Not many dry eyes, but making it loud in his memory was the perfect way to start off Saturday.

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Team 3135 had an interesting time at Wisconsin. We certainly had a lot of problems but we had a lot of fun anyways. We are now ready for Midwest.

For those who are interested one of our problems at Wisconsin was our digital sidecar which we destroyed due to a piece of metal causing a short between two pins(that is what I understand it was) right before a match.

Because of it we couldn't play for 3 matches. The first was the match when it shorted out. The second we were fixing the Digital sidecar, and the third we made it to the match with the wrong bumpers and we couldn't change them in time.

Here is what it looked like and the last frame that our camera saw.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/31l26rmp8v416jb/photo%201.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yp0if85h43...22_173900.jpeg

The camera was placed directly above the Digital Sidecar.

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Just want to reiterate everyone's thoughts about how great this regional was. I think it is amazing the quantity of high caliber teams in Wisconsin and how we continue to push each other to be better. Congrats to the winning alliance (special shout out to 2202) and all the teams that won awards. Cannot wait for next year!

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Those were certainly some intense eliminations, it is too bad some of them had to be decided by fouls.

I want to thank our alliance captain 2481 for looking past some of our issues Saturday morning and trusting in us to follow through for you guys. It was so nice not to have to go bumper to bumper with you guys in eliminations again. It was awesome being able to be apart of both yours and 2202's first regional win. You guys were excellent partners to work with.

Congrats to our friends 1714 on the RCA. You guys certainly deserve it!

I look forward to seeing a number of great teams from this regional down at Midwest in a couple weeks!

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It was 3018's first time at the Wisconsin regional, and we sure had a great time! Many thanks to our alliance partners 706 Cyberhawks and 1259 Paradigm Shift for working hard with us all the way through the elimination matches. Congrats to 2481 the Roboteers, 1732 Hilltoppers, and 2202 Beast Robotics for their victory, they were a solid alliance and we were honored to share the field with them!

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Anyone know if videos of matches will be posted?

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Wow. What a weekend. As many have already mentioned, this was quite possibly the most challenging regional in Wisconsin I've been a part of in my 6 years as a Roboteer mentor. I still don't think it's fully set it that we were able to be among the survivors of the crazy war of balls and bumpers to finally take home our first blue banner. Huge thanks and congratulations go out to our amazing alliance partners from 1732 and 2202, as well as finalists 3018, 706, and 1259. It was an honor to share the field with you all at the end.

Hilltoppers, it was an honor to be able to finally work with you guys instead of being matched up opposite each other to trade bumper scars like in years past. I'm incredibly happy that we were able to help you guys complete the perfect end to a Saturday that started with such an emotional tribute to Drew. Like I mentioned to several of you throughout our crazy run through elims, he was most definitely a part of this special run. While I did not know him personally, I'm sure we all collectively made him proud and we couldn't have done anything more to make it louder after that final buzzer sounded and that score was revealed. Best of luck to you guys in Midwest and we look forward to seeing you again in St. Louis!

B'East, it was incredibly special to share the euphoria of that first regional victory with you guys! Amazing job throughout the competition and we will definitely be looking for you guys in St. Louis. We were incredibly shocked that you were available to join our alliance at pick 15, but extremely excited that you were. It's just another testament to how stacked this regional actually was when a team of your caliber was available at that slot. Best of luck to you guys moving forward and if you ever need any assistance, you'll never have to look any further than our pit.

Also, congratulations to 1714 on a much deserved Chairman's award! As your video fully demonstrated, you guys are the absolute embodiment of what FIRST stands for. Absolutely inspiring. Best of luck and can't wait to see you guys in St. Louis, as well. Hopefully, we'll finally get that chance to hook up with some truss passes!

Special shout out to our friends from teams 2826 and 4143 for your assistance with batteries, breakers, and general emotional support throughout our run through elims. It's always an honor to compete with you guys and your teams are true class acts through and through. I'm still a firm believer that one of you guys missed out on an opportunity to get something more out of your used frame trade on Saturday, though. ;) Can't wait to see you all again!

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It was great competing with you guys in the quarter finals. Your alliance was a great challenge to compete with and you guys definitely deserve this. Good luck in St. Louis and thanks for the great matches:D

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Thanks Kevin and everyone else who made it loud for Drew. It was a very special moment and day for Drew's parents and everyone else who knew Drew.

I'd like to thank both 2481 and 2202 for being absolutely fantastic alliance partners.

2481:After playing you in the finals in 2010 and 2013 and watching you come up short in the 2012 finals, I'm thrilled you finally captured a win. You are no longer in the conversation for best team without an event win. I thought you were clearly had the best robot at the event and we were thrilled alliance selection fell our way so we could join you. While you were good in Central Illinois, you were dominate at Wisconsin. I can't wait to see your improvements for St. Louis.

2202: From climbing your ramps several times at the pre-ship scrimmage in 2007 to semifinalist together in 2011, I've always thought highly of your team. Your consistent autonomous mode and versatile, smart play was exactly what our alliance needed. It also did not go unnoticed that you were the only one on our alliance to not have any mechanical issues during our run. In a physical game, that is a testament to the quality of your machines. I hope you have the absolute best time in St. Louis as you've definitely earned it!

Congrats to 1714 on the Chairman's award. You continue to raise the bar and push our awards/outreach team do to more.

Thanks again to 48, 171, 1714, 2481 and 4212 for swapping wrist bands for scouting data. And thanks to the event volunteers for being understanding and allowing more of our students to sit in the scouting section.

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This is easily my favorite regional I've ever attended. You all were so nice, and it was a pleasure being in the pits with you. (I was a pit rep for most of Friday and Saturday, so if you stopped by 3081's pit, you most likely saw me!) :)

It was an amazing experience to even be competitive with you guys, and we were astounded to be in the top 8 at times and finish in the top half. We got to play with and against some amazing alliances, and are grateful so many wonderful teams were willing to work with us. We were disappointed with not making it to eliminations, but we've learned so much over this weekend that we really can't complain.

Thanks for making this a wonderful first time at the Wisconsin regional. Congrats to all teams.

My mom was so inspired that she will be volunteering with me next year (as I will have graduated). It's amazing when FIRST touches the hearts of students, but this is truly one of the most amazing things that could have happened (my mom didn't even want me to join robotics in 2011-12).

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Thank you William, so true and so well said! There were many a tear after that final buzzer sounded. We are so appreciative of everyone who helped make this day dedicated to Drew so special!

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We had a lot of cooperation issues with our drive team and we also had a lot of problems with the turret witch we ended up just locking down, it just wasn't a very good run at all for us

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Some discussion about Quarter final 2 Match 3 went on over in the "Why does everyone hate this game so much" thread. I had posted video of the match and jeremylee of 1736 had asked if anyone had video of Match 2 of the same quarter final. That thread didn't really seem like the right place for the discussion to continue so I figured this would be more appropriate.

I'll reiterate what I said in the other thread: I'm only posting in the interest of trying to reach a common understanding of how the scoring was done in those two matches. I personally do not think I yet understand fully how either match arrived at the foul points awarded.

Match 3: http://youtu.be/sbJUjhtlHLs

Match 2: http://youtu.be/ZP11DLtqJFE

I already posted all the observations I could glean from match 3 over in the other thread.

For match 2 I see a blue 20pt foul for what appears to be 1736 ramming 706 in the upper left corner of the screen at 1:57.

I see the upper right ref call a foul on red at 2:20, but no signal that it was a technical at about 2:21. My guess is that we were called for a frame perimeter violation against 93 while 3018 was trying to rotate around to shoot in front of the low goal.

Then at 2:34, the ref in the lower right corner calls a foul on blue (again no TF wrist bumping x indication) for what looks like becoming entangled with 3018 while we were shooting.

Personally the 93/3018 interaction toward the end looks like a wash however you want to score it. I don't think either were intentionally trying to do anything to each others robot-- 93 wanted to keep us from scoring and we were trying to score. I could live with a 20 pt foul apiece or no fouls on each. I don't really see how either was escalated to a TF.

The only way I see fouls impacted the final result of this one is if one thinks only red deserved any foul points for the interaction at the end of the match or if one thinks red deserved more. The early foul alone was not enough to change the result.

Everyone sees events differently though due to internal biases, vantage point, etc. I'm far from convinced that the right alliance went on to semi's, but I'm also far from convinced that the wrong one did. It happened-- it was exciting and memorable for all involved. I say congratulations to both alliances.

I do think if these alliances played 10 times straight the score could well be 5-5, but I think the matches would be spectacular to watch.

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Once again Wisconsin was a ton of fun! I actaully had the chance to spend a lot of time walking around the pits (rather than fixing our robot) and met a ton of awesome mentors and students!

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Wow that was awesome! First off, a big thanks to our alliance partners 3018 Nordic Storm and 706 Cyberhawks! We had a great time working with you guys! This was our teams second year in a row making it to the finals, and seeing our usually reserved and professional mentors screaming and dancing (yes, dancing :ahh: ) made this the most amazing experience for our whole team. Congrats to all the teams who competed, we look forward to competing alongside you all next season!

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Just to make it easier for people to see what the sidecar looked like without having to open up the link,

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Thanks for posting this one before we meet on Wednesday, Craig. I could not figure out what exactly happened when watching it over the computer as it switched back and forth a lot. I figured we had a short or something similar to qualification. I only watched these matches, besides my cheering interest, in a scout kind of way. I did not take the official's point of view, so I was quite surprised when we were the winner. I do see now how we were disconnected causing at least 50 points of the penalty in the referee's eyes. It will be interesting to watch our matches as a drive team and a build team to see what direction the information points us for the rest of the season in St. Louis and at Minneapolis for the MSHSL tourney.

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SMOKIN! That's truly a shame it was a 3-match killer, though. Roll this lesson learned into next year's design: even the best laid out electrical/control system can be improved for easier access/maintenance.

Best of luck at Midwest!

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Actually our problems extended past the sidecar. Due to the sidecar we also messed up a spike which continued our problems when we switched out the old one. When we figured this out we changed out the spike.

The third match was missed because of our bumpers. We could have made it if our mounting system wasn't changed by someone on our team without us realizing it.

Yep it really did suck to miss those matches

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I agree with your analysis of match 2 as well as your analysis of match 3 from the other thread. Another tough loss in the quarters for us this year, but we'll move on and continue to tweak our "recipe" for success in the years to come.

Our team had a great time at Wisconsin once again competing against so many great teams and great robots. This regional will always be at the top of our list of events for us to attend each year.

Congrats to 2481, 1732, and 2202 on the win. We knew you guys would be a tough alliance to beat. Good luck at champs to you and everyone else who has qualified as well as those with a chance yet to qualify in the coming weeks.

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Yes-- Match 3 is still a puzzle to me and I suspect sadly for most. Just listening to the reaction to the score in the video shows no one on 3018 was expecting a win. Somehow the refs gave us 100 points and they thought about it a *long* time (2.5 minutes at least), so clearly they had their reasons. I'm not sure if they reviewed video during that time or what. I did not see anyone from our alliance in the question box, but honestly I wasn't looking. It did not seem like anyone from our alliance was anything but disappointed that our robot stopped functioning for the majority of Telop. I know Andrew (our driver) reported they were on their way back to the pits planning the pack-up.

For those curious-- the short Todd speaks of happened in the last round on Friday. We had a jag burn out on us two matches earlier in Q49 (killing the CAN bus and thus essentially our entire robot) and sat idle for the majority of Telop (very similar to Quarter 2 Match 3). But fortunately for 3018, the opposing alliance did not even match the 55 point our alliance put up in autonomous so that failure did not cost us. Team 2081 and 3081 secured the win for our alliance.

We replaced the burned out jag with a brand new jag and it functioned fine for Q54. But in Q61 (a match we were really looking forward to because we were going against our good friends from 1714), the jag went haywire. It killed the CAN bus so we could not control the robot and kept running its motor. The drive team rebooted the CRIO during the match and the motor kept driving the entire reboot and of course the CAN was still dead after the reboot. The match ended and the motor was *still* running.

After the match we had an inspector in the pits checking everything over and it was behaving fine. Best guesses were that either some debris fell in the jag and fell out again when we moved it to the pit (unlikely), or that the jag had some sort of intermittent mfg defect. We replaced it again and the bot was fine for all day Saturday.

So that was 3 matches we sat and watched our robot idle for nearly the entire Telop period-- well not *completely* idle on the one I just described as the ball collector kept spinning that entire Telop (and *beyond* :-)).

This was our first visit to the Wisconsin regional and it was certainly a very memorable one. I know the team thoroughly enjoyed the experience, despite coming up a bit short in the finals and despite the unfortunate way the quarter finals ended.

As this thread attests-- it was a great regional.

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I was the FTAA for this event. Just so everyone knows, the head ref does NOT review any video footage for the matches. He/she depends on the individual refs to remember just what went on during the match. I saw the head ref querying the other refs on what they saw if there was an issue with penalties.

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4143 had an awesome but busy time at the Wisconsin Regional. Great planning and volunteers makes this event run smooth. There is a reason we keep coming back.

Congrats to 2481, 2202, and 1732. Our friends the Roboteers finally got a deserved regional win. 1732 and 2481 worked together this year to get it done.

Thanks to our alliance partners, 2512 and 876. I thought we might have a chance once we started practicing ball passing. I really thought we had a chance after the first match. We posted the third highest score of the day and gave the winning alliance their only loss. Unfortunately our autonomous went haywire, and the champs were too much when full strength. I haven't seen the videos yet, but I pretty sure there was some aggressive play as both sides wanted a win.

Congrats to 2081 Icarus on their second Engineering Inspiration Award in as many years. You've got to tell us your secret.

I feel for our friends 1736 Robot Casserole. Waiting those long minutes while the striped shirts confer at the truss is the worst part of this game. I knew your alliance was in trouble when Al went out to examine 3018's disconnected router. I'm sure they placed it there for signal strength, but that was really unprotected.

Great to see 2826 again and have some fun swapping frames.

Glad to see 706 doing well. I was hoping to be alliance partners three years in a row. We'll see what next year brings.

To 1259, I'm still mad at you for not completing the triple 30 point climb with 2481 and us last year. It would have been the only one I think. And you were so close... (I'm not really mad, just a little sad).

The Central Illinois Alliance with 171 and 2039 didn't have quite as good of regional, but at least avoided controversy.

Mars/Wars had a great season and hopefully will get to a couple of offseason events. Good luck to everyone going to the Championships.

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Thanks for that clarification-- We encountered a similar long conference at Lake Superior and the discussion took place at one of the tables near a monitor. I wondered to myself about possible video review at that point, but felt it was unlikely. I was not really paying attention to where the discussions took place this time, but threw the video review out as something of a wild guess based on my recollection of the Lake Superior discussion.

I don't envy their job at all (or yours!) and certainly appreciate all the volunteers do to make these events happen.

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Had a great time at WI, we did our team De-briefing last night and positive remarks all around for the Regional.
But the above remarks do make one think! Should FRC have video review? Or would that just muck everything up, slow things down, and teach us/make us more "litigious"?

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For anyone interested in match videos and pictures from the event, we should have some up on our team facebook page within the day or so. I'll post the link once it looks like we've compiled everything as best we can. It's been a whirlwind couple of days, to say the least.

Once again, congrats to all the competing teams that contributed to another amazing regional experience in Milwaukee!

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Even though I can prove my team won at least one match due to either incorrect ref calls or assists not counting I still feel video review would ruin the flow of the field. So, in short, no.

One idea for elims that I have heard is to issue a "challenge card" but when you use it, you lose access to your timeout and replacement robot cards. At the same time if you use your timeout or replacement robot card, you cannot use your challenge card. If the challenge card is used, the alliance captain has 3 minutes to prove that there was an incorrect call during the match. This way it takes less time than a timeout and should not significantly affect the flow of eliminations.

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Here we go, guys! We've got quite a few pictures compiled and the match videos are getting uploaded (slowly) as I type this. You can find them on our team facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/team2481

If anyone else has pictures or videos you'd like to share with us, please do so! We will continue to add to the picture gallery and videography as we receive them. Enjoy!

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They look great barn34. Nice job to whoever took them:)

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Thanks!

I'll post specific video links here for everyone's convenience. I'll update it as the videos are uploaded. So far, all of our matches from Saturday are up.

Q77 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-IO1lYbtA
Q88 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T4YECH-06w
Q93 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytfb4zYWHAI
QF3-1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYnsHDUAo1I (Wheel encoder comes loose, presumably on one of the defensive collisions with 2512, creating a wheel that's fighting against the other 3 until the main breaker eventually trips leaving us dead for a good portion of the match. Hilltoppers were also disabled after they had a bumper fall off. B'East fought valiantly in our honor, but in this game 1 vs. 3 is a headshot. We found the issue in the pits afterwards, corrected it as best we could given the time, and also started icing down the breaker between matches.)
QF3-2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cycv7zO0EIw (Completed this match without issue and continued to ice the main breaker. Made a strategy adjustment at this point to turn 1732 and 2202 into twin outlet zone flares to minimize the ability of the defense to stall our truss pass runs. The third assist between them was only done if the defense gave them the opportunity.)
QF3-3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q6Mu2IzuDo (Breaker again overheats with about 30 seconds to go. 2202 and 1732 did an amazing job finishing the scoring run, getting another quick one, and playing great defense the rest of the way. Made a slight adjustment to our drive style on defense to hopefully help reduce the heat load on that breaker.)
SF2-1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyzWLeZbgbk (Breaker trips for the 3rd time with around 30 seconds remaining, once again. At this point, it was obvious that it was becoming easier and easier to trip each time and the ice wasn't able to get it cool enough between matches as the time was reduced between them. We finally swapped the main breaker between SF2-1 and SF2-2 and it did not trip the rest of the way. The continued icing and subtle drive adjustments we made were able to keep us operational.)
SF2-2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEBa5H1khk
F1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE94RoMd62E (Red alliance called a timeout following the match.)
F2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4AYeJGE5ds (While checking on the same encoder from QF3-1 during the timeout between F1 and F2, it ended up 15 degrees out of alignment. You can clearly see our control is uncharacteristically sloppy as a result in the final match. Our drivers deserve a ton of credit for compensating for the issue as best they could and still valiantly finished off our alliance's scoring runs.)

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Hey everyone,

It's a bit late, but I'd like to say that GRT 192 had a great time at the Wisconsin Regional! It was our first time that far up north, but everyone was really welcoming and helpful (almost every parts request was immediately met). Shout out to team 1714 MORE Robotics for helping us transport our robot.

Congratulations to the winning alliance 2481 The Roboteers, 1732 The Hilltoppers, and 2202 BEAST Robotics. Also, thanks to 2470 The Blitz Team and 1675 The Ultimate Protection Squad for being fantastic alliance partners!

We saw some robots at Wisconsin that used ideas we've never seen before, and we're looking forward to trying some of them out ourselves back at home. Wisconsin was definitely an eyeopener for us, and if we get a chance, we'd definitely love to come back!

That red team from California,
Gunn Robotics 192

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Those videos, I guess mostly on where they were recorded from, are absolutely awesome to view.

I am curious how those SF would have ended up had they been full alliances for both sides and if we didn't have our big timeout fiasco and have our working pneumatics for the auto's.... It was fun either way :)

Any other videos that people have, feel free to post... I am still looking for QF4-Match 3... seems to be the only match that my team did not catch, that is the one I wanted to see the most haha.

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I'm sorry to hear that, it really is a beautiful machine and it's a shame you didn't get it working to it's full potential.

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If you view our release video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8sxcxqOOMA you can see that the original design was to have lexan covering both sides of where that router is.

Unfortunately when we weighed in at our first tournament we were *9* lbs over 120 (shocking all of us). Turns out no one considered the weight of the lexan. We had no choice but to get rid of the lexan. We simply did not have the time nor forethought to do much about the radio and just had to go with it.

We are still a very young team-- this is the 4th (maybe 5th) year this particular mix of students and mentors have worked together. The students own this robot-- the design, the CAD, the work, the programming. We mentors have felt somewhat obsolete this year.

We would love to revel in being the 4th seed having gone 9-1 and making it to finals, defeating the #1 seed in the process. We would have loved to have reveled in going to Wisconsin (honestly a generally more competitive regional than the 4 available in MN) and making eliminations as an alliance captain even had we lost that Q2 M3.

We only lost one match during quals (an unfortunate situation where a brand new jag freaked out on us and shorted such that it ran its motor even after the round was complete). When we were paired with a good truss thrower we put up scores of 176 (with 1714) or 155 (with Cyber Hawks). I don't recall fouls affecting our scores much in any of our quals. We were maybe #21 in assist points, #9 in auto score (we scored 25 in all 10 qual matches) and 5th in telop points. We were #6 in OPR for the regional and #3 in CCWM. Our T&C was lower because unless we had a good shooter or a good truss thrower we always opted for assist points rather than us doing our own truss to human followed by our own shot and we just did not have that many matches with another bot that could throw a quick truss.

For the first time in its brief history, this team was highly ranked in not just one MN regional but in 2 regionals including the esteemed Milwaukee regional. But somehow there seems to be a dark cloud over all those achievements this group of students accomplished as a team because they did not think to better protect their radio after they had to quickly reduce weight. They did not go out begging for review or challenging the match. We were not influential in the way it was scored.

I feel terrible that the #5 was eliminated the way it went down-- that's heartbreaking. I just wish I could feel better about how others felt we did at this tournament. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive.

But I want to send out props to all the students on 3018 for exceeding all past achievements by building a robot that plays the game well and I want to wish them all the best at Championships (where I'm sure the radio will be better protected :) ).

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The match that you guys lost because of the unfortunate short, we [1306] got tipped over too, so our alliance was playing 1 vs 3. Here is the match video for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OniibVdokLU


Overall I'm proud of 1306's performance at Wisconsin. Although we finished ranked 36th, we were ranked in the top 25 in scores for auto and assists, and even were ranked 4th in teleop scores. We helped to get 2 out of the 3 QM scores over 200, first with 2481 and 537 with a score of 205 and then a higher score of 218 with 93 and 111. We had a few unfortunate alliances that dropped us down in the standings, but I still feel we did our best.

Best of luck to the teams who qualified for championships!

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I had the same thought myself on the way home after the regional. Feel free to look up our accolades for the year also. I thought we had a chance at our teams first blue banner this year, but ended up short in quals both times, and both tough losses in our 3rd matches in which I thought we played great. I was surprised we slipped as much as we did during selection at Wisconsin. I'm not sure if anyone noticed or not, but we missed two auto shots the whole Wisconsin regional even with two redo matches. One was due to a loose rope causing the ball to fall out the side and the other was a bad turn due to a burnt out Talon.

You guys took down a very good #5 alliance with us being the 3rd robot and proceeded to make it to finals once again. I think this speaks volumes for your team. If my comments in the other thread brought your team down in any way, I do apologize, that was not the intent.

For fun, checkout our damage after Central IL (these are inside our frame at all times by the way):
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ghlight=damage

We couldn't pick up a ball anymore as we could no longer put our arm down and we were out of spares. This year truly is a rough game demanding tough robots. Our 3/4 inch solid aluminum rod did it's job protecting them at Milwaukee.

Good luck at champs, I'm sure you guys will do well.

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No need to apologize-- We stuck to the facts, reviewed videos, tried to figure out what the heck went on. I appreciate the exchange.

I'm probably overly sensitive because this is only my 3rd year as a mentor and my son is on our drive team. I kind of inferred from the other comment I quoted that perhaps it was our own fault that we disabled and had we built our robot 'properly' we would have properly lost that match and there would have been no drama. This could easily all be in my head as I can't be sure what that poster was meaning to imply-- and my inference may have been off base. But at the same time I did want to give a shout out to any of our students who may have been following the thread and might possibly have reached the same inference i had.

Yes! I had seen those pics already (before WI iirc). At our first tournament, our first pick 2052 lost their truss shot after I think 2 matches. Our frame was tweaked badly, completely breaking our autonomous for nearly all of elims (losing 25 pts and having to chase our ball down each match)-- finally got it to work again in the 3rd finals match.

Thanks-- I hope so!

My first year with the team (rebound rumble) we made it to championships on the shirt-tails of King Tec and M.O.R.E being picked 3rd to join the #1 alliance in Lake Superior. At our 2nd tournament we modified our shooter and managed to become the #1 seed, but lost in the semis. We were very optimistic about doing well at championship, but the variance of the balls on the field plagued us-- and we wound up something like #50 on Newton and were not picked.

Last year we built a robot that could climb (nuff said). We got to Championship from Engineering Inspiration award at 10,000 lakes, and won the creativity award at St. Louis, so it wasn't a bad season at all, but again, no elims.

We do hope that this year that we can remain functional for the entire tournament, and either be picking or be deemed a top 32 bot that can help an alliance by those doing the picking. But I've certainly learned in my short 3 years that *nothing* can be taken for granted.

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We were so, so close :( I share your feelings on that one.

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Well this was an exciting event! Thanks to teams 537 and 3418, you guys were awesome alliance partners and I wish both of you luck in the coming seasons. Congratulations teams 1732, 2202, and 2481. You played great and I hope you guys do well at Champions this year.