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Pault 16-03-2014 12:43

Re: A List of Direct Technical Fouls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billylo (Post 1358424)
Here is a list of direct 50 points technical fouls (no warnings required, without a lower value penalty for first time offence. In fairness, refs are mostly friendly and are trying to do their job the best they can.)

G5: BALL improperly staged before the start of the match (e.g. not touching robots)
G12: POSSESS their opponent’s BALLS (intentional or not)
G14: Strategies aimed solely at forcing the opposing ALLIANCE to violate a rule
G15: Contact with opponents' robot during AUTO
G16: Touching operator console during AUTO
G19: Leave parts on the field intentionally
G25: Robots blockade the FIELD in an attempt to stop the flow of the MATCH
G26: Robots intentionally fall down or tip over to block the FIELD
G26-1: Break the planes of the openings of the opponent’s LOW GOAL in an attempt to impede opponent SCORING in that GOAL.
G27: destruction or inhibition of ROBOTS
G28: Initiating deliberate or damaging contact with an opponent ROBOT on or inside the vertical extension of its FRAME PERIMETER
G29: pin an opponent ROBOT for more than 5 seconds
G31: HP inhibiting robots
G32: HP deflecting opponent's ball
G33: HP retrieve ball when the pedestal is not lit
G36: HP throwing the ball across the truss directly
G37: Ball not inbounded from the side (over the guard rail)
G40: HP body parts crossing over yellow line (vertical plan) or guard rail
G41: Touch robot or ball in contact with robot during match
G42: Non-drivers operating the robot

I will post the final counts by the end of this week.

[Yes: I will share summary stats and remarks with FRC properly by the end of the week.]

I figured I would take a crack at which of these I think needs a change:

G12: FOUL. If continuous or strategic, TECHNICAL FOUL.
G29: FOUL. If lasting for more than 8 seconds, or opponent ROBOT is possessing a BALL, TECHNICAL FOUL.
G40: FOUL.

I was actually kind of surprised, I figured the list would be a lot longer.

JosephC 16-03-2014 13:44

Re: A List of Direct Technical Fouls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pault (Post 1359567)
G29: FOUL. If lasting for more than 8 seconds, or opponent ROBOT is possessing a BALL, TECHNICAL FOUL.

I'm actually quite fine with the way G29 is. It's not really possible to pin for 5 seconds accidentally unless your robot dies, in which case it doesn't matter if it's 5 or 8 seconds.

billylo 16-03-2014 23:21

Re: A simple form to capture your thoughts on tech foul penalties
 
Final statistics, together with a simple deck has been sent to frcteams@usfirst.org.

Signing off on this thread.

Good night.


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