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I'm going to continue the highjacking real quick..

Congrats on the Chairman's! Watching your video submission gave me chills, so amazing what you guys are doing!

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No no no... he's right. 900 just sits in the corner the entire time. ;-)

In fact, 900's robot sits so still that some say it doesn't even have wheels.

EDIT: It seems the original post was removed too... intriguing.

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That was our strategy in eliminations and it won the Lake Superior regional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFcNY6nVTCQ&t=0m26s

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That's actually what I meant.
It doesnt always happen smoothly because of defense, and the 2nd robot transitioning immediately from defense to get into position.
This was done the week before with our winning alliance at Northern Lights.

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I removed my original post because parts of it were not necessarily GP.

Would I be wrong in saying that cycle time is what makes your game strategy effective. With the added ability to have 2 robots on the the opposite side of the field to receive the ball and score it.

Seeing as you've said that once you release the ball you do not move to assist in defensive play, you effectively allow your opponent team to do whatever they please on their scoring side of the field.

Meaning there would be significantly less defense played on the scoring team of your opponent, while the scoring teams on your alliance could have to face up to two opposing defending robots at any given time. The possibility of making it much harder for your two scoring robots to complete the cycle quickly.

Don't get me wrong, I really like your team's full court assisting strategy. However, this past weekend I finally got to see how defense is really key in successful elimination play.

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All kidding aside, you are correct that defense is important. We played some ourselves and would not have been nearly as effective without it.

My tongue was firmly implanted in my cheek with my comments about us not moving. Our ideal alliance isn't two scoring robots but only one. The third robot is there for defense and you clearly saw that with our picks for the NC regional. I believe 1287 only ever scored one ball throughout the event and that was in one of our matches because 4288 was out of commission.

So yes, defense is important and the period between us shooting the ball and the ball going into the goal kept getting longer so we had little choice but to play defense and play it we did.

Dual CIMs, high traction tread, six wheels.... that ain't just a robot for shooting giant balls.

The real question you should be asking is what we have up our sleeves for St Louis.

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You've figured out a way to score a ball from the inbounder by bouncing it perfectly off the truss :yikes:

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I still want to see if the full court catching we were discussing would be possible with you guys. A man can dream right?

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We definitely think it can be done and I'm REALLY sorry we never got a good chance to try. We tried hard on that one. We even had the robot inspectors on board for giving us a spot to try it in.

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Don't worry about it. 449 was (and still is) having a lot of controls related problems this year that made us sit out for 3-4 matches on Friday. Hopefully we'll be able to fix everything for our next regional.

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No rules update today? I guess the game is ready for prime time! yay...we play this week

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http://frc-manual.usfirst.org/Updates/0#term 176

No CD thread yet

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Does this mean any consequential contact on an opponent ball is considered a technical foul now? Last update it seemed that ramming an opponent ball with a fixed element (bumpers) for example wouldn't be considered possession. Has this changed?

Sorry if this is the wrong thread for this topic, I'll move this post if needed.

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I know I'm a little late to the party, but...

FYI, we were purely chosen for our defense. We had no real high goal capability, and didn't plan to assist in eliminations. We had a ton of electrical issues the whole weekend, and never really were able to work the mechanical aspects of our shooter that were holding us back.

Saturday morning, I made the case to 2671 that we deserved to be their first pick, as we were possibly the best defensive pick of the regional, and likely wouldn't make it to the second round. We had kept them (2671) from scoring a single point one match, and had kept 1678 to 2 truss shots and 2 low goals in another. We figured that we'd be able to shut down the other alliance's offensive team, while they scored points. We'd be able to get a third pick would handle assisting and trussing, as this event was fairly deep with them.

We we're extremely surprised that we'd convinced 2671, and were very lucky to get a second pick as good as 1662. Unfortunately, things didn't quite work out in eliminations, what with technical fouls and main breaker issues.

We're working really hard to make our shooter so it never breaks for SVR, and believe we've finally put our main breaker and electronics issues behind us. I'm looking forward to competing there with the robot we designed, not with the awesome defense bot we discovered we had by accident.

Good luck to you and your team at SVR.

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During eliminations teams must be able to change strategy from one match to another, to keep the other alliance off balance as far as defense.