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myork 16-03-2014 21:22
Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
With all the chatter about how insane foul points are this year, here's a tool that shows all the matches where foul points decide the match

http://public.tableausoftware.com/vi...lay_count= no

MARS_James 16-03-2014 21:27
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Just as an FYI i just checked my team (179) and Match 40 of Orlando we lost due to foul points, but the chart shows different

M. Lillis 16-03-2014 21:30
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Can anyone tell me why no information from NH Granite State District are available?

131 has data from their second event, but not GSD.

myork 16-03-2014 21:54
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Fixed! Thanks for the info!

It was a bad calculation: if the match would be a tie without foul points, it was previously counted as a "Not Decided by Fouls"

brandon.cottrell 19-03-2014 17:26
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
1266, 2339, and 3328 won San Diego Qualifier #28 because of foul points.

myork 20-03-2014 12:33
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Brandon, the FRC Spy data (which is taken from twitter), says that 1266, 2339, and 3328 (the blue alliance) lost 90 to 53 and there were no fouls. You can verify here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/frcspy.php?

Cynette 20-03-2014 13:31
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Is there some way to indicate that a tie would have been won or lost because of the penalty? We (1511) had one of those in match 47 at the NY Tech Valley regional. Because ties are just lines at the axis, I can't tell if it has color.

Ether 20-03-2014 13:41
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cynette (Post 1361783)
Is there some way to indicate that a tie would have been won or lost because of the penalty? We (1511) had one of those in match 47 at the NY Tech Valley regional. Because ties are just lines at the axis, I can't tell if it has color.
Here's a complete list (well, as complete as the Twitter data anyway).

Mulcahy 20-03-2014 14:52
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Thank You. This is a great tool.

Hoover 20-03-2014 16:11
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
This was working better yesterday. Now the MAR Mt Olive matches are not present.

Ether 20-03-2014 16:24
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 1361845)
This was working better yesterday. Now the MAR Mt Olive matches are not present.
The following NJFLA match outcomes were affected by foul points:
Code:
3448        Sun, 02 Mar 2014 14:50:27 +0000        NJFLA        E        18        90        132
3495        Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:45:14 +0000        NJFLA        E        5        132        121
3540        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 18:27:30 +0000        NJFLA        Q        67        50        61
3556        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 17:56:45 +0000        NJFLA        Q        62        78        102
3634        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 15:35:37 +0000        NJFLA        Q        41        80        70
3637        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 15:31:13 +0000        NJFLA        Q        40        66        50
3682        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:25:48 +0000        NJFLA        Q        32        61        105
3693        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:10:47 +0000        NJFLA        Q        31        55        55
3714        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 13:34:11 +0000        NJFLA        Q        29        86        75
3722        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 13:21:15 +0000        NJFLA        Q        27        60        40
3757        Sat, 01 Mar 2014 12:14:39 +0000        NJFLA        Q        17        55        12

mwtidd 20-03-2014 16:48
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by M. Lillis (Post 1359913)
Can anyone tell me why no information from NH Granite State District are available?

131 has data from their second event, but not GSD.
Penalties per match can only be determined based on twitter data. GSD had issues both with their twitter feed and the webcast, so I'm assuming there was something up with the internet at the high school.

Looks like Groton also had issues with Twitter also. Shame they don't bring a hotspot into smaller events like this, as they've been running into this issue for several years now.

Ether 20-03-2014 19:03
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1361873)
Looks like Groton also had issues with Twitter also. Shame they don't bring a hotspot into smaller events like this...
How difficult would it be to simply store the data locally and make it available later?

Does anybody have contact info for the person(s) within FIRST who would have the authority to make this happen and might be open to such a change?

Madison 20-03-2014 19:11
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
I'm curious to see which team(s) have been most affected by foul points. Which teams have lost the most matches due to fouls? Which teams have won the most due to fouls?

Hoover 20-03-2014 19:13
Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Is it possible to compare this year to 2013? I remember some scores from last year with high foul counts. But I wasn't paying as much attention to when those were the cause of a loss. I know of at least one match last year when we lost because of it. There may have been others. This year I know there was only one such match for us so far. For that reason I am starting to question how much different this year is than last year.


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