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Ether 20-03-2014 20:53

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
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Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1361916)
I'm curious to see which team(s) have been most affected by foul points. Which teams have lost the most matches due to fouls? Which teams have won the most due to fouls?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=49



George Nishimura 20-03-2014 21:12

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
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Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1361958)
If you can think of a better way to present this let me know. I haven't thoroughly cross-checked it yet.

A suggestion:

Even if some of these are from elimination matches, you could organize it as a qualifications-like league table:

Team WfL TfL LfW LfT TfW TfL Points

Where XfY is X from Y (eg WfL is Win from Loss) in number of games, and points is the cumulative points change (eg a WfL will give you +2, a TfL = +1, and a LfW = -2).

It could also be more useful to separate it in to two tables, with one dedicated to benefits (ie points gained) and the other to costs (ie points lost).

Ether 20-03-2014 21:17

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
moved foul point analysis here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1362035

George Nishimura 20-03-2014 21:46

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1361968)
I replaced the PDF with a spreadsheet:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1361958


I think all the other info you're looking for is in this spreadsheet:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1361812



Cheers!

On first glance, it seems 245, 399 and 4776 (-10) have been hurt the most, while 4500 (+12) has benefitted from foul points the most. (Not quite useful analysis so far)

Ether 20-03-2014 22:21

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
moved foul point analysis here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1362035

ThunderousPrime 20-03-2014 23:34

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
The site appears to be down as of 11:33PM EST 3/20

myork 22-03-2014 01:06

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
You hit the site during an upgrade!

myork 22-03-2014 01:08

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Hoover, it's possible to do that comparison, but it's a low priority on my long todo list.

myork 22-03-2014 01:10

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
This shows the net benefit for every team due to fouls:

http://public.tableausoftware.com/pr...BenefitByFouls

You can filter by event

Ether 22-03-2014 10:24

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 1361917)
Is it possible to compare this year to 2013?

Here's the 2013 analysis. You can compare it to the 2014 YTD analysis here.

mizscience 28-03-2014 16:13

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
Wasn't sure where to post this, but I'm pretty sure this is the ultimate example of a match decided by foul points... (taken today at the Greater DC Regional). http://imgur.com/zz7mss1

Monochron 28-03-2014 17:01

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
The NC Regional Champions were decided by foul points. The last match of the finals had a Technical foul that decided the match. I heard that it was a dubious "possession of opponents ball" foul, but I never confirmed it.

I was rooting for 900 and the other teams that won though, they stuck with their alliance partner who seemed to be having over-heating issues and were made up of some real diamonds in the rough. It was an exciting Finals either way.

brandon.cottrell 28-03-2014 18:11

Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls
 
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Originally Posted by myork (Post 1361770)
Brandon, the FRC Spy data (which is taken from twitter), says that 1266, 2339, and 3328 (the blue alliance) lost 90 to 53 and there were no fouls. You can verify here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/frcspy.php?

The score that was announced was that. We were bummed because we thought we were going to have a winning streak. But later on someone came up to us and said that they changed the score. According to this we won.

Keep in mind that since FRCSpy is updated live, a lot of scores may not be exact due to contestments.


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