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Niezrecki 07-04-2014 20:45

Re: Why does everyone hate this game so much?
 
I have to admit that this game can be a little bit less interesting then other games, but I don't think that it is bad. It's a little bit more difficult to show off to sponsors and non invested FIRST members because it is a little bit less comprehensive than other games.

I also entirely understand the G27 updated, but I saw it being called quite often at different events. It just seems annoying that so many deciding factors in games were fouls. Most of the time the fouls were in my favor, but it took away from the overall importance of offensive action and cycling.

scooty199 07-04-2014 20:47

Re: Why does everyone hate this game so much?
 
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One more after-the-fact problem is that too many robots look the same. It is hard to go to an event and see a unique robot.
I guess part of that can be attributed to the Build Blitz/ RI3D things, but I don't necessarily think that's bad.

Obviously with the rules design convergence isn't as major a thing in FIRST as it is with platforms like VEX and FTC, but teams do adapt.

If FIRST wants to not so lightly encourage (read: "mandate") teams to assist other teams so that the floor at regionals isn't as bad as it is as times, I think it needs to be done better than this.

I fully believe FIRST can make those improvements for whatever game they do next year. And I don't think the floor at Championships will be entirely awful.

I do miss that feeling of being able to work solo and still do somewhat well, however.

pfreivald 07-04-2014 21:18

Re: Why does everyone hate this game so much?
 
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Originally Posted by bduddy (Post 1370697)
I wonder if FIRST is trying to gently(?) nudge the "powerhouse" teams towards improving the general level of play, which really is shockingly low at a lot of regionals. 254 got the Gracious Professionalism award at SVR largely for, according to the speech, spending a great deal of time in the pits helping other teams. While I'm not questioning their motives, this probably helped them as well, given that they had a very good robot and could then expect better partners in their matches. Obviously improving the overall level of FRC by a significant amount takes a lot longer than a weekend, but....

We (1551) got the Gracious Professionalism Award at FLR largely for spending a great deal of time in the pits helping other teams--several of which later kicked our asses on the field.

We didn't try to earn an award, we just did what we assume every other team would do, and what many teams have done for us when we needed help. I'm certain--CERTAIN--that the Poofs were not trying to win an award, and were not trying to increase their own chances of winning.

You know what's awesome? When teams who sink so much time, effort, and energy into the game can at least compete on the field. You know what sucks? When they can't. So when you have the opportunity to help them compete, you do it, because it's the right thing to do. It has nothing whatsoever to do with this metagame or anything else.


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