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Even though both sides agreed to it? That to me says there's no issue. Who cares if it makes these finals look "boring" or "different" than the status quo, these 6 teams all made the decision to do this. It is a rationalization, because the choices made were rational considering everyone directly effected by it agreed to it.

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The money was always there, but in the big picture it really isn't that big a prize and it took two days of matches to think out of the box and get 2 alliances willing to try it.

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How does it not show. If an alliance just doesn't have the scoring potential to put up those points, its not even worth bothering trying to accomplish the challenge. And as said before all teams have to agree to it. Not every team in Arizona regional would have agreed to this challenge. It just so happen that the 6 in the finals did and completing the challenge was realistic. I never even thought of an agreement of playing no defense until I heard about it near the finals.

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But everyone who did that match said it wasnt about the money...

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Then F1-2 was all about the money for the both alliances. In their 5 previous Elimination matches the Blue Alliance averaged 165.

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There are several reasons the teams did this, but money almost certainly wasn't at the top of list.

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That is a great question, since the offer originated from the blue alliance I would have to say that we probably would not done it because the challenge would not have been brought up, but I could be wrong maybe they would have done it anyway.

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If the money was even on the list, it was wrong to play the match that way.

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The money was always on the table, people were just not interested in it...until there was one shot left to do it

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Your alliance member said you guys offered them the "no defense" match after you showed them they had no chance at the banner.

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Then that means the "challenge" didnt lead to that match, the money did.

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I thought it wasn't about the money?

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If it had just been a challenge with a trophy or certificate, I doubt it would have happened, but who knows? The point I was trying to make is the challenge only became a consideration when everything else was settled.
I thought you were just confused about why this strategy only happened in the final match of the competition. If the red alliance had had any worries about actually winning, I'm sure they would not have given up any options and tactics. Earlier in this thread, post #7 from Rangel(kf7fdb) from one of the players involved explains pretty well. But IMHO, red had the better defense too:cool: !

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ITT: People wanting to be right while bringing others down. How GP.

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Its both. I wouldnt agree to a strategy between alliances that would alter the flow of the game and I most certainly wouldnt do it if money was behind the want to do that strategy.