301 points! and could have done more
 

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Not to take anything away from your 301pts or the win.... but, where is the defense?

The only time a blue robot approached a red robot was to get a run away ball. And, they moved out of the way when the red robot backed up from the inbounder.

This is a totally different game than what is being played everywhere else.

I love offense, but that looked like an exhibition...not the final match of a regional.

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My thoughts exactly. Unfortunately I think these good teams will struggle at Champs when they realize how tough defense is in other areas of the world. I also don't understand how teams can just sit there when they don't have the ball and do nothing.

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Impressive score! I watched this on the live webcast actually. However after driving through a moderately defensive regional, this seems to be the only time ever that I've seen as little defense as that. I think one blue robot may have gently nudged one red robot one time during all of teleop. It looks almost coordinated. Can I ask why teams chose to spend most of the match idle rather than defending? It just seems totally bizarre to me.

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Any reason why there was almost zero defense in this match? Was that just the alliances' strategies or were the referrers calling match extremely tight before this? Were teams scared to play defense?

Congratulations on the win.

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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...48#post1363148

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Finals 1 was more of how the regionals was. To sum Finals 2 up very quickly, Steve Sanghi, a big supporter of FIRST announced that if both alliance in a match score at least 200 points, he would sponsor every team with 500 dollars towards next season. Blue alliance actually approached us with the no defense plan and us the red alliance agreed because we were confident we could out score them with no defense on both sides. Why the blue alliance decided to do this I'll let them explain if they wish. Here is finals 1 btw and is similar to how finals 2 probably would have been played:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNwCVSuy1vw

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Igniting controversy in 3... 2... 1...

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It's interesting to see people's response to my silly idea. Notice that the outcome of the match was most likely not affected....will we ever know for sure?

does it matter?

It is a game, after all.

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From what I know there was a sponsor Steve Sanghi who agreed to pay for the entry fee of teams for next year's regional if they were in a match and both alliances scored over 200 points. So there was a pact made in the finals between the alliances to not play defense so that they could get the sponsorship, that is why there was little to no defense played.

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Previous match 1 match in finals with defense 225 to 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNwCVSuy1vw
after this both alliances agreed to try to get 200 point plus each to get a bet made by Steve Sanghi, to get 500 dollars off the next years registration. almost made it 301 to 180

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I cannot honestly believe anyone would agree to this. That really lessens the win to me. How do you tell this year's seniors that "hey, we arent going to try to win for a chance at maybe getting some of next years' entry fee."

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What was there to lose? for either side?

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The regional...

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How?