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brandon.cottrell 25-03-2014 01:23

6 Regional Season?
 
So I was wondering if a team has ever gone to 6 events - 1 event every week of competition season. I'm aware that 1477 went to 4 events last year, and that's a lot for most teams. But has any team ever done 6?

Andrew Schreiber 25-03-2014 01:24

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http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-o...rogramCode=FRC

RIDE likely punched our ticket to NE DCMP where we will attempt to punch a ticket to CMP. 6 events. Plus a week 0.

waialua359 25-03-2014 02:03

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6 True 3 day regional events?
If it was up to me, I'd try it and most of our kids would do it.

But then our other mentors and wife would kill me because of it.......so yeah, probably not.

4 on the other hand......:rolleyes:

Mark McLeod 25-03-2014 09:49

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Here's a simple tally over the years.
It includes CMP.

Jon Stratis 25-03-2014 09:54

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I bet it becomes more common with district events - it's a lot easier to commit to a Sat/Sun event every week than a Th/Fri/Sat event where mentors have to miss work and students have to miss school. As to the affect it has on non-robotics personal relationships...

wilsonmw04 25-03-2014 09:58

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It would never work. Too many days out of school during a short period of time. Now if we had a 3 month season that would be something else.

brandon.cottrell 25-03-2014 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1364478)
Here's a simple tally over the years.
It includes CMP.

Oh, so unless the team in 2011 and the team in 2013 didn't qualify it's never happened recently.

Mark McLeod 25-03-2014 10:37

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Both the 6-event teams included a Championship visit.It hasn't happened since FRC started in 1992.

Jon Stratis 25-03-2014 10:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1364507)
It hasn't happened since FRC started in 1992.

FRC hasn't always had 6 weeks of competition (for example, in 2000 there were 4 weeks of regionals followed by champs)... Since they started having regionals that qualify for champs, has there ever been a team that competed every week? So in 2000 that would be 4 regionals + champs for a total of 5 weeks.

StAxis 25-03-2014 10:52

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I can't imagine it being feasible for a team with a budget of under $100,000 per year, as well as needing a school dedicated to FRC. On top of that having mentors as a paid position would be almost necessary since 3-4 days a week off from a job for 6 weeks plus championships is basically impossible. If such a team existed I would love to be on it, but it will take a lot of development in the FRC world before that becomes possible.

Mark McLeod 25-03-2014 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1364508)
FRC hasn't always had 6 weeks of competition (for example, in 2000 there were 4 weeks of regionals followed by champs)... Since they started having regionals that qualify for champs, has there ever been a team that competed every week? So in 2000 that would be 4 regionals + champs for a total of 5 weeks.

In a word, yes there were actually quite a few in the early years (pre-2000).
For many years Championships was open to anyone who wanted to go and with only a few event weeks it was easier for schools to let students off for each of the available events.

Andrew Schreiber 25-03-2014 11:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StAxis (Post 1364510)
I can't imagine it being feasible for a team with a budget of under $100,000 per year, as well as needing a school dedicated to FRC. On top of that having mentors as a paid position would be almost necessary since 3-4 days a week off from a job for 6 weeks plus championships is basically impossible. If such a team existed I would love to be on it, but it will take a lot of development in the FRC world before that becomes possible.

2012 I did:

Orlando - RI
South Florida
CVR - RI/Judge
MAR CMP - RI
CMP - FLL Judge

Without much problem from from my full time job. My health, however, was a different story. Working 40 hours in 3 days followed by 3 days of regionals and a day of traveling was brutal on my health.

Koko Ed 25-03-2014 11:26

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I did 17 events last year.
think the problem of teams doing events week after week after week is missing so much school as much as it is financially difficult. Plus the robot will eventually break down from so much action.

waialua359 25-03-2014 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StAxis (Post 1364510)
I can't imagine it being feasible for a team with a budget of under $100,000

😃 One can dream.

brandon.cottrell 25-03-2014 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1364537)
I did 17 events last year.
think the problem of teams doing events week after week after week is missing so much school as much as it is financially difficult. Plus the robot will eventually break down from so much action.

17? Which ones?

Chinmay 25-03-2014 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon1266 (Post 1364740)
17? Which ones?

Probably includes some that aren't FRC

esquared 25-03-2014 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1364537)
I did 17 events last year.
think the problem of teams doing events week after week after week is missing so much school as much as it is financially difficult. Plus the robot will eventually break down from so much action.

I did 14 last year, missed 3 of the ones I normally volunteer for due to being out of the country for 2.5 months of the year.

I expect to hit closer to 18 this year, with 6 weeks in a row of FRC events helping to establish a strong pace. :ahh:

I'll still end up behind Ed somehow though ;)

Koko Ed 25-03-2014 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon1266 (Post 1364740)
17? Which ones?

FLR
Orlando
Pittsbugh
Boston
GTR West
Midwest
MSC
Championship (Newton)
Battlecry
Beantown Blitz
MARC
Midknight Mayhem
IRI
Kettering Kickoff
Rah Cha Cha Ruckus
Duel on the Delaware
Brunswick Eruption

Marc S. 25-03-2014 20:07

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If a team were to pack up everything and get on a plane saturday night, they might just make it in time to compete at Israel the next day.

Combine that with state championships and the World Championship and that could be 9 official FRC events in 1 season.;)

Koko Ed 25-03-2014 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chinmay (Post 1364741)
Probably includes some that aren't FRC

I did do a NY State FTC qualifier as well.

Chinmay 25-03-2014 20:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1364806)
I did do a NY State FTC qualifier as well.

I thought there would be 5 or more non-FRC events in there. Padding numbers using FLL is the only way I'd get that high. I'm thoroughly impressed with your total!

Koko Ed 25-03-2014 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chinmay (Post 1364808)
I thought there would be 5 or more non-FRC events in there. Padding numbers using FLL is the only way I'd get that high. I'm thoroughly impressed with your total!

So was my accountant come tax time.

lynca 26-03-2014 13:43

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With the number of offseason events,

I think all FRC teams should at least do 4 Events.

2 Regional/District Events
2 Offseason FRC events

1 Event per season is not suitable to be competitive in FRC anymore.

bduddy 26-03-2014 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1365128)
With the number of offseason events,

I think all FRC teams should at least do:

2 Regiona/District Events
2 Offseason FRC events

1 Event per season is not suitable to be competitive in FRC anymore.

Wow, you make it sound so easy!

*sigh*

Jacob Bendicksen 26-03-2014 13:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1364803)
FLR
Orlando
Pittsbugh
Boston
GTR West
Midwest
MSC
Championship (Newton)
Battlecry
Beantown Blitz
MARC
Midknight Mayhem
IRI
Kettering Kickoff
Rah Cha Cha Ruckus
Duel on the Delaware
Brunswick Eruption

We'd love to see you out here on the left coast for one of our events :D

Koko Ed 26-03-2014 15:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCascadeKid (Post 1365133)
We'd love to see you out here on the left coast for one of our events :D

I almost ended up @ Las Vegas a couple of years ago but no one responded to my inquiries about my assignment so I switched out for Queen City.

Kevin Leonard 26-03-2014 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc S. (Post 1364804)
If a team were to pack up everything and get on a plane saturday night, they might just make it in time to compete at Israel the next day.

Combine that with state championships and the World Championship and that could be 9 official FRC events in 1 season.;)

There was a weekend in NE with two district events. One was Thurs-Fri, the other was Sat-Sun.

Theoretically, a team in NE could do
Granite State/Israel
UNH/Groton
WPI
Southington
Northeastern
Pine Tree
NECMP
CMP
For a grand total of 10 official events in one FRC season.
I believe there's also a weekend in MAR like that (but I'm not sure)
If you start counting off-seasons it looks like one could feasibly add another 19 events to their schedule (according to TBA's data from last years off-season events) Plus a week zero event!

In theory, one could do 30 competitions in one year. Clearly Ed and Andrew are slacking off!

Koko Ed 26-03-2014 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder910 (Post 1365210)

In theory, one could do 30 competitions in one year. Clearly Ed and Andrew are slacking off!

There are some events that I have written off.
I would like to do an actual week zero one day.

Andrew Schreiber 26-03-2014 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder910 (Post 1365210)
There was a weekend in NE with two district events. One was Thurs-Fri, the other was Sat-Sun.

Theoretically, a team in NE could do
Granite State/Israel
UNH/Groton
WPI
Southington
Northeastern
Pine Tree
NECMP
CMP
For a grand total of 10 official events in one FRC season.
I believe there's also a weekend in MAR like that (but I'm not sure)
If you start counting off-seasons it looks like one could feasibly add another 19 events to their schedule (according to TBA's data from last years off-season events) Plus a week zero event!

In theory, one could do 30 competitions in one year. Clearly Ed and Andrew are slacking off!

Eh, I was only counting on season events. I figure showing up at 7 events ( plus a week zero) is enough for one season...The more horrifying one is that, excepting Granite State, 125 is COMPETING at all of these (CMP is still only a possibility)

Granite State
Groton
Rhode Island
Northeastern
Pine Tree
NECMP
CMP


We'll see about hitting the off season circuit. I'll, obviously, be at Beantown. Might hit Battlecry and a few others depending on what 125 is doing. I'm ok taking second place to Ed though.

PayneTrain 26-03-2014 16:15

Re: 6 Regional Season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1365227)
Eh, I was only counting on season events. I figure showing up at 7 events ( plus a week zero) is enough for one season...The more horrifying one is that, excepting Granite State, 125 is COMPETING at all of these (CMP is still only a possibility)

Granite State
Groton
Rhode Island
Northeastern
Pine Tree
NECMP
CMP


We'll see about hitting the off season circuit. I'll, obviously, be at Beantown. Might hit Battlecry and a few others depending on what 125 is doing. I'm ok taking second place to Ed though.

Is 125 even going to have a robot after 6 events or is it just going to be a battle-scarred brick of metal?

I don't know how you guys are doing it and still alive. I was still recovering from San Antonio when we were in Richmond.

Andrew Schreiber 26-03-2014 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1365233)
Is 125 even going to have a robot after 6 events or is it just going to be a battle-scarred brick of metal?

I don't know how you guys are doing it and still alive. I was still recovering from San Antonio when we were in Richmond.

We build 'em tough and maintain 'em well. Yesterday we used some of our unbag period to perform routine maintenance on the drive train as well as a few upgrades. The intake was also fixed thought that was mostly replacing belts, checking bearings, and replacing wheels. That was despite ramming it full speed into the walls repeatedly and having teams run into it, it's a tank. The Choo Choo linkage is being replaced due to some damage at RIDE (it has well over 1000 shots on it) we've decided to swap it out for the spare. Wish I could remember if we were swapping out ChooBaca for R2DChoo or vice versa...

Back of the envelope calculations yesterday: Counting Replays and the Week 0, we've played 51 regulation matches. Add on the preship testing, unbag time, and practice matches and we have a ridiculous run time on that bot already and we still have 3 (hopefully 4) more events to run.


As for how we're doing it, no idea.

brandon.cottrell 26-03-2014 16:39

Re: 6 Regional Season?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder910 (Post 1365210)
according to TBA's data from last years off-season events) Plus a week zero event!

In theory, one could do 30 competitions in one year. Clearly Ed and Andrew are slacking off!

Not all off season events are on TBA


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