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Dr.Gusta 28-03-2014 17:47

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Cash4587 28-03-2014 17:48

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You could do something like 192 did with their gearbox to keep the finger hazard lower. However, that would imply that you have enough meat on the gearbox side plates to drill and tap a hole to bolt on some thin sheet aluminum to cover the exposed gears.

Dr.Gusta 28-03-2014 17:56

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I could do that, it is all 1/4 plate alum. Thank you

Marc S. 28-03-2014 18:33

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Will you be posting a .step of this? Could be easier to give feedback that way.

One thing I notice about the design is that it appears that it would require you to take the entire thing apart just to replace the motors. Maybe something to think about in future revisions.

DiefChelphi 28-03-2014 18:37

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hahaha i like your picture

Dr.Gusta 28-03-2014 18:58

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Here is the STEP file :D

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7j...it?usp=sharing

Thank you for your interest and help

CENTURION 28-03-2014 19:31

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If the plates are getting milled (As opposed to waterjet or laser cut), you could also leave 1/16" or so of metal in the bottom of all the pockets. It won't weigh much, but will keep fingers out.

Totally awesome design by the way. I have a feeling my FTC team will be making something similar for next year.

wasayanwer97 28-03-2014 19:31

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Awesome gearbox so far!

I just opened up the step file. Your construction technique is similar to 192's gearbox from 2012, but you currently don't have any hard connections. If you look at theirs (though I'm no expert on it, I've just seen pictures) they still have some bolted connections. While it looks like you're going for a press fit, having some hard connections would be wise. Reliability and durability is key on gearboxes, especially your drive. The last thing you want is one of those plates falling off.

Also, as far as condensing it goes, you could cut down the shafts on the CIMs, which would allow you to pull everything in some more.

One last thing, as far as face-mounting goes, the sides extend some distance past the front. It's not a big deal, but it may annoy you a bit if you want to face-mount these.

Other than that, great work. Can't wait to see where this goes!

Dr.Gusta 28-03-2014 19:38

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Originally Posted by CENTURION (Post 1366106)
If the plates are getting milled (As opposed to waterjet or laser cut), you could also leave 1/16" or so of metal in the bottom of all the pockets. It won't weigh much, but will keep fingers out.

Totally awesome design by the way. I have a feeling my FTC team will be making something similar for next year.

Sadly this will be water jetted so that is not an option I will probably put some black tinted Polycarbonate riveted to the box to keep fingers out while still being able to see inside.

Dr.Gusta 28-03-2014 19:43

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Originally Posted by wasayanwer97 (Post 1366107)
Awesome gearbox so far!

I just opened up the step file. Your construction technique is similar to 192's gearbox from 2012, but you currently don't have any hard connections. If you look at theirs (though I'm no expert on it, I've just seen pictures) they still have some bolted connections. While it looks like you're going for a press fit, having some hard connections would be wise. Reliability and durability is key on gearboxes, especially your drive. The last thing you want is one of those plates falling off.

Also, as far as condensing it goes, you could cut down the shafts on the CIMs, which would allow you to pull everything in some more.

One last thing, as far as face-mounting goes, the sides extend some distance past the front. It's not a big deal, but it may annoy you a bit if you want to face-mount these.

Other than that, great work. Can't wait to see where this goes!

You are completely right I forgot about the standoffs and bolted connections (duh) I really meant to add those just slipped my mind. I forgot to mention I messed with the gear ratios a bit and I am planning on adding a third to put the ratio back where it was on the ball shiftier normally.

lonnie lascelle 28-03-2014 20:38

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Is it possible to put both motors on one side so that you can reduce the overall width? Make one motor horiz and the other under it on an angle - same site.:cool:

Seth Mallory 28-03-2014 22:07

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If you feel like driving 450 miles to SVR next week I can try to have a 2012 gear box there. Let me know by Monday and I will arrange it. This years is even nicer.

wasayanwer97 28-03-2014 22:15

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Originally Posted by Seth Mallory (Post 1366141)
If you feel like driving 450 miles to SVR next week I can try to have a 2012 gear box there. Let me know by Monday and I will arrange it. This years is even nicer.

I don't know if OP will be coming, but I'd sure love to see one of your 2012 gearboxes. It's one of the coolest gearboxes I've ever seen.

I've run into a myriad of different issues while attempting to design my own worm drive, so seeing how you guys were able to accomplish it would be amazing!

Dr.Gusta 28-03-2014 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Mallory (Post 1366141)
If you feel like driving 450 miles to SVR next week I can try to have a 2012 gear box there. Let me know by Monday and I will arrange it. This years is even nicer.

Yeah seems like quite a distance but thank you for the offer. As for the issue with width I am willing for it to be that wide for the soul purpose that it is very easy to fit into a drive base. This will take up probably more space than the original Ball shifter gearbox but it is much less awkward.

sanddrag 28-03-2014 23:30

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What's your source and spec on the bevel gears?


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