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Joe Ross 02-04-2014 01:27

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1368177)
Your forgot 5188:

Thanks. My method didn't account for backup teams or teams replaced by backups, but they were already accounted for elsewhere.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Norm (Post 1368243)
2468 - Hub City Winners and Chairmans

Thanks. My method didn't accommodate someone who won Chairmans and another award at the same event. Congratulations for being too good for my algorithm.

Here's a more comprehensive list, subject to the same caveats as previous.

33 68 75 78 399 503 558 624 836 1023 1108 1310 1318 1718 1817 1983 1986 2046 2175 2337 2403 2468 2471 2486 2502 2522 2590 2614 2903 2996 3238 3284 3313 3360 3467 3602 3667 3794 3824 3937 4060 4125 4488 4911 4914 4915 4956 4967 4988 5129 5188

geomapguy 02-04-2014 01:29

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Any inclination when waitlist spots will be released??

MrTechCenter 02-04-2014 01:32

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
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Originally Posted by geomapguy (Post 1368251)
Any inclination when waitlist spots will be released??

Following District Championships

Gregor 02-04-2014 01:45

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
4914 won RAS at their first event, then won the regional at their second, to they created a wildcard, and didn't take up 2 spots.

swootton 02-04-2014 07:38

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
One of the things that is incorrect is the count from NECMP. We have 24 allocated slots PLUS 6 slots for our legacy/hall of fame teams for a total of 30 spots from New England.

These six teams may have been accounted for somewhere else in your math but I wanted to point out they may be missing.

jlmcmchl 02-04-2014 08:32

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swootton (Post 1368277)
One of the things that is incorrect is the count from NECMP. We have 24 allocated slots PLUS 6 slots for our legacy/hall of fame teams for a total of 30 spots from New England.

These six teams may have been accounted for somewhere else in your math but I wanted to point out they may be missing.

False. If any of those teams get one of your 24 allocated spots, you effectively get one less spot for each HOF/Legacy team in those 24.

HOF/Legacy teams are counted separately to your district's allocated spots at CMP.

In that instance they will hold two spots, but they will not generate a wildcard for another team.

JustPlyZ 02-04-2014 08:41

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
1334 - Regional Chairman's Award at Waterloo

IbleedPink233 02-04-2014 09:23

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Team 20's wildcard was used when they also won the Fingerlakes Regional.

cgmv123 02-04-2014 10:12

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geomapguy (Post 1368251)
Any inclination when waitlist spots will be released??

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1368253)
Following District Championships

If at all. There may not be any waitlist spots at Championship this year due to increasing slots and acceptance rates.

eli2410 02-04-2014 10:27

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Sports For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Norm (Post 1367850)
624 - Alamo winners and Chairman's award
2468 - Hub City winners and Chairman's award

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb) (Post 1367861)
2486- 2014 Arizona Chairmans and 2014 Arizona Regional Winners
2403- 2014 Arizona Engineering Inspiration and 2014 Arizona Regional Winners

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan Macdonald (Post 1367863)
1305 added one with a North Bay RCA and a Waterloo EI.

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Originally Posted by G_rupp (Post 1367898)
Crossroads Regional:
1108 Regional Win and RCA. 4 teams on the winning alliance
5188 Regional Win and Rookie All Star.

Meaning, that the 4th team takes one of those two spots.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1367912)
1310-GTRW Winners and EI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime (Post 1368102)
4930 won Rookie All Star at Buckeye and the Finger Lakes Regionals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Norm (Post 1368243)
2468 - Hub City Winners and Chairmans

Congratulations to everyone!
Total Number of Spots Opened By These Teams For Waitlist Teams: 27

swootton 02-04-2014 13:35

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlmcmchl (Post 1368289)
False. If any of those teams get one of your 24 allocated spots, you effectively get one less spot for each HOF/Legacy team in those 24.

HOF/Legacy teams are counted separately to your district's allocated spots at CMP.

In that instance they will hold two spots, but they will not generate a wildcard for another team.

As per our district point model faq sheet, it says the 6 legacy teams are auto bids from HQ. It specifically says the 24 slots DO NOT include the additional 6. See below.

Finally, moving on to the FIRST Championship:

- 24 teams from New England will go on to the FIRST Championship. This count does not include our 6 Legacy and Hall of Fame teams (FRC 23, 126, 151, 175, 190, 236) who receive auto-bids through FIRST HQ.

- The 24 will allocate automatically as follows (and was discussed in part on Frank’s Blog):

4 Chairmans Award Winners

2 Engineering Inspiration Award Winners

2 Rookie All Star Award Winners

Chris is me 02-04-2014 13:40

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swootton (Post 1368416)
As per our district point model faq sheet, it says the 6 legacy teams are auto bids from HQ. It specifically says the 24 slots DO NOT include the additional 6. See below.

The *allocated* spots do not include the additional 6, as in "24 spots are up for grabs". However, if a legacy team takes one of those 24 spots by winning the event / CA, the spot is not passed down.

swootton 02-04-2014 14:07

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1368420)
The *allocated* spots do not include the additional 6, as in "24 spots are up for grabs". However, if a legacy team takes one of those 24 spots by winning the event / CA, the spot is not passed down.

That's not the way I understood it and the way it was explained by NEFirst at our meetings before we went to the district model this year. This is all new for us so I guess we'll have to find out soon.

Jimmy Nichols 02-04-2014 14:28

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1368257)
4914 won RAS at their first event, then won the regional at their second, to they created a wildcard, and didn't take up 2 spots.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the specifics on the wildcard are a wildcard spot is only created when a team who wins a regional has previously qualified by winning a prior regional. I don't believe RAS, Chairmans, or EI pass on Wildcards should a team win one of these at a prior Regional and then win at another event.

Chris is me 02-04-2014 14:30

Re: Teams Holding Multiple Spots For Championships
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols (Post 1368447)
Correct me if I am wrong, but the specifics on the wildcard are a wildcard spot is only created when a team who wins a regional has previously qualified by winning a prior regional. I don't believe RAS, Chairmans, or EI pass on Wildcards should a team win one of these at a prior Regional and then win at another event.

This is incorrect - wildcards are generated after a team has earned a qualifying spot at another regional. They do not need to have won the previous regional, only the current regional.


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