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dodar

08-04-2014 10:05

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Im happy for 1323 for being able to go to champs after this little debacle, but this kinda gives a bad taste as to what FIRST hasnt done for 233.

David Brinza

08-04-2014 10:08

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Frank's proposed solution of requiring the alliance requesting a backup robot to write the team number of the robot to be replaced then initialing the backup form should prevent such miscommunication from occurring in the future.

Offering 1323 a wildcard slot to Champs is appropriate.

I just hope MadTown can accept the offer and make it to St. Louis!

Ryan Dognaux

08-04-2014 10:11

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I'll give FIRST credit on this one. They owned up to their mistake, made it right for 1323 and made changes to make sure this never happens again.

DampRobot

08-04-2014 10:11

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Good. Madtown deserves a better end to their season. Good luck at CMP RC and 1323!

Koko Ed

08-04-2014 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1371067)

Im happy for 1323 for being able to go to champs after this little debacle, but this kinda gives a bad taste as to what FIRST hasnt done for 233.

I'm waiting for someone to scream bloody murder about the team that won't get to go to championships now because FIRST had to cover for their mistake.
There's always someone who will be unhappy about something no matter what the reasoning is.

dodar

08-04-2014 10:22

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1371078)

Well Pink has a legitimate beef, maybe even more so than 1323, to claim they should have gotten the same treatment as 1323.

coalhot

08-04-2014 10:28

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1371078)

I think Ed is talking about the wildcard spot that is being reallocated to 1323 for FIRST goofing. Not sure how I feel about that...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1371084)

Well Pink has a legitimate beef, maybe even more so than 1323, to claim they should have gotten the same treatment as 1323.

While that was a bad call, not sure how it stacks up to this one...

Brandon Holley

08-04-2014 10:35

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1371078)

Because 254/971 brought 2 wildcard slots to the table in the SVR finals, and 1678 and 368 each already had a bid- one of those wildcard slots was 'blackholed'.

1323 is essentially sliding into that blackholed wildcard spot which should not hurt anyone else qualifying for CMP.

-Brando

emmell

08-04-2014 10:36

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Originally Posted by scooty199 (Post 1371062)

And so very quickly with that I believe the venom and vitriol will be quelled.

Only after public apologies are offered to Mark, the Head Referee.

Koko Ed

08-04-2014 10:51

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Originally Posted by emmell (Post 1371095)

Only after public apologies are offered to Mark, the Head Referee.

They don't seem to be in the apologizing mood.

wilsonmw04

08-04-2014 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emmell (Post 1371095)

Only after public apologies are offered to Mark, the Head Referee.

Truth.

AdamHeard

08-04-2014 11:14

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1370486)

I won't edit or delete this post, I said it and believe in dealing with what you have said.

I'll revise my statement though. Intelligent was an unfair comment, as someone intelligent can easily be unreasonable.

We also don't actually know who made the final call. It was unfair to state head ref right off the bat.

I do stand by the fact that whoever did make the final call here is unreasonable, and such a call is just ridiculous.

Sigh. I look like an idiot.

Decision was made by a very reasonable person, with incorrect information and/or incorrect understanding of the information.

Frank is awesome for taking the blame for all of this, and making it right how he sees fit.

scooty199

08-04-2014 11:37

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So we're still waiting on those apologies.. right?

Because the Head Ref was just blasted in this thread.

Karthik

08-04-2014 11:37

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1371125)

Sigh. I look like an idiot.

No, not at all. Just like Frank was able to admit that he made a bad call, you've publicly admitted that you made a rush to judgement. What you've both shown here is gracious and professional.

Chris is me

08-04-2014 11:42

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Originally Posted by scooty199 (Post 1371148)

So we're still waiting on those apologies.. right?

Because the Head Ref was just blasted in this thread.

Literally the post directly above yours is doing just that.

I would like to observe that 1323 handled this situation extremely graciously and did not "blast the head ref" in their posts. If your implication is that 1323 needs to apologize, I just don't see it. Both members simply reported the facts, didn't name names, and even apologized for spreading a rumor.

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