Re: Starting configuration in the Goalie Zone
 

Ok thanks.

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And just to cite a rule:

Which was later clarified in the Q&A to be like I stated (goalies must place first, then white-zone bots may (re-)position)

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We actually had an issue with that in L.A.--one of the teams was playing goalie, but they positioned, their opponents positioned, then the goalie team repositioned, and then their opponents repositioned.... After a couple of rounds of that, one of the refs went over and kept them from moving the robot again.

Basically, once you've placed, your opponents can adjust--but if you adjust again, so can they. Do it too often, and get called for delaying the match.

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They made us change after initial practice rounds, we now have to automate movement during autonomous rather than just being a static blocker pre-placed.

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Sorry, but there is nothing in the rules that says that you have to MOVE--in any way, shape, or form--during automode. You can, in fact, just sit there, regardless of where you are on the field--it's called the Mars Rock automode (you sit there and wait for Opportunity to come along). Whoever made you change that can go read the rulebook again--standard penalty for not knowin' the rules.

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We did movement to gain a "surprise" position advantage otherwise the offensive bots know where we will be at the beginning of autonomous. So perhaps I misspoke... they made us stop pre-placing the bot "Mars rock style" after offense set up.

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True, true. I was thinking it was because someone thought sitting still was illegal. You could always use reverse psychology and move during practice... and then sit still during a real match or two!

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I doubt we'll get in practice but we'll see... good idea

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Just as a thought is there are rule saying that you can't use an opponent's hot goal to move to their hot goal to block balls? I think that something like this would be able to really mess up the auton of many great robots.

Re: Starting configuration in the Goalie Zone
 

Nope, no rule at all on that.

Note, however, that you'll still have to move over there...

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Well so long as you have a really fast robot you might have a chance because if you block the first hot goal (or start there) then once the hot goal switches you will already know that it is hot before the other robot knows. Buuuut that would be insanely hard. Either way it would be interesting to take a look at!

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You could also adapt the cheesy poof hot goal detection method to goalie movement

If CheesyVision is used against 254 to kill their auto, the world will end!

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Yup, cheesy vision is VERY interesting

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Yes I have caused that many times. But somebody keeps recreating it. :ahh: